Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site

[somapop]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

^^ 2030. Around the same time HS2 will have started :)

That's some forward thinking. I can't think of any other scheme being planned in the UK (or indeed anywhere else) that would take so long (non public sector at least).

 

[GXCity]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

^^ 2030. Around the same time HS2 will have started :)

That's some forward thinking. I can't think of any other scheme being planned in the UK (or indeed anywhere else) that would take so long (non public sector at least).

Obviously our owner could get bored in the next couple of years and sell us :)

 

[jrb]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

anyone know when the new Campus will be completed?

If you're talking about the developments as a whole, including the training ground and all areas around the stadium as discussed in detail in the Eastlands Regeneration Framework, then you're looking at 2026-ish, I think. They put a 15-year timeframe on it but I can't remember whether that was in 2011 or 2012. However, there you're talking about the so-called 'collar site', the current north car parks, the land to the west of the stadium and relocation of the current athletics/squash/tennis facilities and so on. It's a huge job.

If you mean the training ground and the first phase of the Beswick Hub sports and community facilities (6th form college, swimming pool and sports science facility), then the training ground is due to open in time for pre-season ahead of the 2014/5 campaign. I think the community facilities will also be up and running by then, but I'm not 100% sure and don't have time to check.

The Campus is due be finished in two year stages up to 2030. Of course by then I would imagine further plans by other developers will be in place and as such will continue long into the future.

So guessing.(dates are just a figment of my imagination)

Training Academy.(2012-14)
Stadium expansion. Both tiers(2015-2019)
Leisure destination(2020/2022-23 depending on build time)
Other elements of the Etihad Campus(2023-2030)

 

[EricBrooksGhost]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

If you're talking about the developments as a whole, including the training ground and all areas around the stadium as discussed in detail in the Eastlands Regeneration Framework, then you're looking at 2026-ish, I think. They put a 15-year timeframe on it but I can't remember whether that was in 2011 or 2012. However, there you're talking about the so-called 'collar site', the current north car parks, the land to the west of the stadium and relocation of the current athletics/squash/tennis facilities and so on. It's a huge job.

If you mean the training ground and the first phase of the Beswick Hub sports and community facilities (6th form college, swimming pool and sports science facility), then the training ground is due to open in time for pre-season ahead of the 2014/5 campaign. I think the community facilities will also be up and running by then, but I'm not 100% sure and don't have time to check.

The Campus is due be finished in two year stages up to 2030. Of course by then I would imagine further plans by other developers will be in place and as such will continue long into the future.

So guessing.(dates are just a figment of my imagination)

Training Academy.(2012-14)
Stadium expansion. Both tiers(2015-2019)
Leisure destination(2020/2022-23 depending on build time)
Other elements of the Etihad Campus(2023-2030)

I'll be dead from alcohol poisoning before that lot's finished

 

[somapop]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

^^ 2030. Around the same time HS2 will have started :)

That's some forward thinking. I can't think of any other scheme being planned in the UK (or indeed anywhere else) that would take so long (non public sector at least).

Obviously our owner could get bored in the next couple of years and sell us :)

This ride is just beginning (and by ride, I don't mean some leftover mechano/scaffold like that donkey phallus in Piccadilly Gardens)...now's not the time to get off :)

 

[petrusha]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

The Campus is due be finished in two year stages up to 2030. Of course by then I would imagine further plans by other developers will be in place and as such will continue long into the future.

I'm sure you're right and defer to your superior knowledge. FWIW, in terms of what's in the public domain, the document 'Manchester's Local Development Framework - Core Strategy' document, which was adopted by the Council's Executive around 9 months ago refers to plans at Eastlands for Delivery of 5 -10ha of B1a employment land (Note - B1a refers to use as offices), 6ha of leisure and entertainment facilities, and 30ha of sports facilities by 2027, which is where I got the 15 years from.

However, the Core Strategy document only covers a 15-year timespan. That fits with what you're saying in that there could be further areas to be developed beyond the end of that period, especially because the totals slated for development seem low compared to the 200 acres previously spoken about (a hectare is about 2.5 acres, so the above adds up to 115 in total - or have the excluded the 80-ish acres of the training facility?).

The Core Strategy document is here, if anyone's interested: http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/856/local_development_framework/3301/core_strategy/1

Incidentally, a while back someone was questioning whether the plans for a leisure destination had been quietly dropped. The Core Strategy document from July 2012 contains the last mentions as far as I'm aware. See, for instance:

"[Manchester will become] an international destination for tourism and culture with the Eastlands area of the Regional Centre a national attraction for sport, leisure and recreation" - para 4.1, page 30 out of 250 in the PDF

"The "Collar Site" provides an opportunity for a leisure, recreation and entertainment visitor attraction of national significance. A landmark design will be key to delivering such a prestigious development" - para 8.69, page 74 out of 250 in the PDF

"The scale of the regeneration of this area will be continued with the creation of a visitor destination of national significance" - para 8.72, page 76 out of 250 in the PDF

 

[citysix]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

a friend of mine who is involved with the mountain bike course at clayton vale as told me it will be a huge success,its an excellent course for all levels and will attract riders from all over the uk..

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

If you're talking about the developments as a whole, including the training ground and all areas around the stadium as discussed in detail in the Eastlands Regeneration Framework, then you're looking at 2026-ish, I think. They put a 15-year timeframe on it but I can't remember whether that was in 2011 or 2012. However, there you're talking about the so-called 'collar site', the current north car parks, the land to the west of the stadium and relocation of the current athletics/squash/tennis facilities and so on. It's a huge job.

If you mean the training ground and the first phase of the Beswick Hub sports and community facilities (6th form college, swimming pool and sports science facility), then the training ground is due to open in time for pre-season ahead of the 2014/5 campaign. I think the community facilities will also be up and running by then, but I'm not 100% sure and don't have time to check.

The Campus is due be finished in two year stages up to 2030. Of course by then I would imagine further plans by other developers will be in place and as such will continue long into the future.

So guessing.(dates are just a figment of my imagination)

Training Academy.(2012-14)
Stadium expansion. Both tiers(2015-2019)
Leisure destination(2020/2022-23 depending on build time)
Other elements of the Etihad Campus(2023-2030)

2030 I'll be in my 70's, I hope I live to see this and the success it brings....I really envy all you 20 year olds out there!! What wonderful owners we have!!

 

[Danny Hoekman]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

The Campus is due be finished in two year stages up to 2030. Of course by then I would imagine further plans by other developers will be in place and as such will continue long into the future.

So guessing.(dates are just a figment of my imagination)

Training Academy.(2012-14)
Stadium expansion. Both tiers(2015-2019)
Leisure destination(2020/2022-23 depending on build time)
Other elements of the Etihad Campus(2023-2030)

2030 I'll be in my 70's, I hope I live to see this and the success it brings....I really envy all you 20 year olds out there!! What wonderful owners we have!!

Yeah, this is the only downside to all of this development. I wish I was much younger, as I'm knackered now and don't think I'll get to see it all!

 

[Shaelumstash]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

The Campus is due be finished in two year stages up to 2030. Of course by then I would imagine further plans by other developers will be in place and as such will continue long into the future.

I'm sure you're right and defer to your superior knowledge. FWIW, in terms of what's in the public domain, the document 'Manchester's Local Development Framework - Core Strategy' document, which was adopted by the Council's Executive around 9 months ago refers to plans at Eastlands for Delivery of 5 -10ha of B1a employment land (Note - B1a refers to use as offices), 6ha of leisure and entertainment facilities, and 30ha of sports facilities by 2027, which is where I got the 15 years from.

However, the Core Strategy document only covers a 15-year timespan. That fits with what you're saying in that there could be further areas to be developed beyond the end of that period, especially because the totals slated for development seem low compared to the 200 acres previously spoken about (a hectare is about 2.5 acres, so the above adds up to 115 in total - or have the excluded the 80-ish acres of the training facility?).

The Core Strategy document is here, if anyone's interested: http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/856/local_development_framework/3301/core_strategy/1

Incidentally, a while back someone was questioning whether the plans for a leisure destination had been quietly dropped. The Core Strategy document from July 2012 contains the last mentions as far as I'm aware. See, for instance:

"[Manchester will become] an international destination for tourism and culture with the Eastlands area of the Regional Centre a national attraction for sport, leisure and recreation" - para 4.1, page 30 out of 250 in the PDF

"The "Collar Site" provides an opportunity for a leisure, recreation and entertainment visitor attraction of national significance. A landmark design will be key to delivering such a prestigious development" - para 8.69, page 74 out of 250 in the PDF

"The scale of the regeneration of this area will be continued with the creation of a visitor destination of national significance" - para 8.72, page 76 out of 250 in the PDF

Yeh that was me, thanks very much for that, this was exactly the kind of info I was looking for.