Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site

[pirate]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Portacabin says 'Proposals' not proposal, does this mean that there could be more than 1 plan?

[bigimg]http://imageshack.us/a/img96/1273/lx03.jpg[/bigimg]

I reckon so

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

proximo.

 

[toffee balls]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Portacabin says 'Proposals' not proposal, does this mean that there could be more than 1 plan?

[bigimg]http://imageshack.us/a/img96/1273/lx03.jpg[/bigimg]

I reckon so

Well spotted .
Bit Isco threadish though

 

[jrb]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Portacabin says 'Proposals' not proposal, does this mean that there could be more than 1 plan?

[bigimg]http://imageshack.us/a/img96/1273/lx03.jpg[/bigimg]

I reckon so

Well spotted .
Bit Isco threadish though

Perhaps we get a vote, or at least a say on the proposal? (probably not)

 

[NPBlue]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Can I just add. I'm not trying to push my views about this onto anyone. If nothing else it's worthy of a discussion until we get to see what's inside the public display portacabin.

I've now uploaded all the pictures onto the computer. Either today or tomorrow morningI will upload and post all the training academy pictures.

Going back to the diagram. I've circled the 2 points of interest that makes me think this is a genuine diagram of how the South Stand will look from inside the stadium.

Click to enlarge. X2.

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/lw3KZRp.jpg[/bigimg]

1. The smaller red circle. Note the cables are visible through the vents or are on the inside of the vents/stadium?

They are the just the cables on the top of the last spiral, so OUTSIDE

2. The larger red circle. Note the tapered and longer seating configuration that eventually leads to the enlarged 3rd tier.
3. Note in the diagram how far the dual exits are away from the end of the stand, compared to the dual exits on the 3rd tiers of the Colin Bell and East Stand. Picture below.

Those will be additional boxes I think in the corners where the current corner seating is
There are already stairways up to the third tier in place - you use them to get to the small set of seating currently in the corners - I assume they're just going to use them to get down to the second tier and then onwards down to ground via existing stairways

I have to say I'm quote pleased with how close this is to my offering of three years ago...
[bigimg]http://stevenicklin.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/COMS60EW~0.jpg[/bigimg]

This detail Disco Steve drew would back up what the tour guide says.
However , this is not what City have decided to show on that hoarding as you can see the angle of the existing roof remains the same .

Getting bored now but I am right

I don't know if you are right or wrong, but the cross section shown on the portacabin could be the roofline along, say, the by-line.

What I'm saying is the cross section could be from anywhere, as there is no reference point.

We'll just have to wait and see, but in view of what the tour guides and others have said, I would expect something more interesting than a few rows of seats perched on top of the lounge.

 

[DiscoSteve]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

I'm not an ITK - I just found the original ARUP drawings on t'internet and hacked them around based on two options - raise the roof or not.

It wasn't rocket science honestly - I just hacked the schematics from
<a class="postlink" href="http://ashui.com/mag/downloads/doc_download/30-the-city-of-manchester-stadium-manchester-uk.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://ashui.com/mag/downloads/doc_down ... er-uk.html</a>

 

[Leyther]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

The reference point to the cross section is the number of entrances, it is clearly on or a little inside of the touchline - nowhere near the penalty spot axis. That section also shows the players entrance tunnel but not the service tunnel? Maybe removable seating in the service tunnel?

 

[NPBlue]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

The reference point to the cross section is the number of entrances, it is clearly on or a little inside of the touchline - nowhere near the penalty spot axis. That section also shows the players entrance tunnel but not the service tunnel? Maybe removable seating in the service tunnel?

The sevice tunnel, if it was on the plans, would refer to the Colin Bell stand and its joining with the north stand.

I can't see it being filled with Gene Kelly type seats myself.

The planned extension is the south stand, and the plans show the joining of the east stand with the south stand, but yes, I agree with you that the cross section is probably taken from the edge of the pitch, but without the approrpriate reference, it's supposition.

 

[ste.sully]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

I'm not an ITK - I just found the original ARUP drawings on t'internet and hacked them around based on two options - raise the roof or not.

It wasn't rocket science honestly - I just hacked the schematics from
<a class="postlink" href="http://ashui.com/mag/downloads/doc_download/30-the-city-of-manchester-stadium-manchester-uk.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://ashui.com/mag/downloads/doc_down ... er-uk.html</a>

In that case this old Arup section drawing on the cabin is probably a red herring all together. That was probably a cross section which was proposed to Manchester City if they wanted third tier seating rather than the corporate boxes that are on both ends of the stadium.

Of course the club probably could not afford another tier at the time and 48,000 was quite sufficient at the time. There is no way a few extra rows on both ends will take the capacity up to the rumoured 60,000. I'd expect something more substantial.

Also, I'm quite surprised to hear about lifting the stadium roof. Moving a tensioned 10,000 tonne+ structure will be difficult. The purlins won't like it. It's a bit like moving a Jenga tower all at the same time. The stadium roof was built meticulously bit by bit. Would be impressed if they could simply move the stadium roof higher if they ever want to expand the stadium further.

 

[toffee balls]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

some more from a couple of years ago - this one was bang on :-)
[bigimg]http://stevenicklin.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/COMS55EW~0.jpg[/bigimg]
note many rows on this one...
[bigimg]http://stevenicklin.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/COMS55NSPlan~0.jpg[/bigimg]

This is frustrating but I will try once more.

Disco Steve's section is like a slice of cake taken right through the centreline of the the stadium right through the centre spot ( family stand through to the south stand ).
Imagine cutting the stadium in two long ways and then prising it open and that is what the longitudinal section shows.

Don't appreciate the zzzzs

It doesn't matter whether the cross section is taken near the touch line or through the penalty spot , the view is the same.
Look as DS's plan , the green area of seats stays consistent , corner flag to corner flag as the stadia seating are on the same plane.
The roof however drops at the eaves to its lowest point right along the middle axis.

We will find out soon enough but it does feel like Xmas day when I was 17.
Still relished it but a bit underwhelmed.

The last 5 years since 01/09/08 , every day felt like I was a 9 year old again.