Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site

[JOGAMIGMOG]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

My concern is that any expansion is going to be very technically challenging and extremely disruptive. But for the roof design the expansion could proceed in stages as the support builds up.

It appears that it will have to be done in a 'oner' otherwise the roof dismantling and reinstatement will have to be repeated. This could mean a season 'ground sharing' while the work proceeds or vastly reduced capacity.

Is there sufficient room to build a new stadium on the campus and is this likely to be technically feasible?

Why not remove the roof completely in a week and replace it with another design which is designed to meet up with a future expanded stadium. Effectively the roof will be a 'floating design' suspended by additional cables until the new stands are built and connected to the outer edges of the roof. This could easily be done in the close season.

This then frees us to build additional stands as and when with no disruption.

Or am I being a bit thick?

A week! I doubt that the roof could be removed and rebuilt in the close season never mind a week. This floating design what do you have in mind?

I'm not talking about a rebuild in a week but I'm sure we could remove completely the existing roof in a week. The new roof will take the close season to build.

What I mean is an oval roof design suspended by new cables on new bigger spirals further away from the existing ones. The new roof will be about 50foot higher that the current stadium and will overlap it on the outside by a further 50 foot or so. From the outside it looks like it's hovvering above the stadium. This will then free us to extend the existing stands to the new roof whenever we want.

 

[pride in battle]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Kramer, your talking tosh mate, the stadium WAS built with expansion in mind, City emphasized if it needed expanding they could do it without MAJOR problems, 60.000 was the figure.

 

[Dribble]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Kramer, your talking tosh mate, the stadium WAS built with expansion in mind, City emphasized if it needed expanding they could do it without MAJOR problems, 60.000 was the figure.

^^This^^........

The original spec was for an 80,000 all seater stadium with a retractable roof, but the incumbant government didn't want such a big stadium built with public funds to be outside London because it could affect the viability of the new Wembley project. I remember this causing a massive stink at the time.

Our original stadium plans were costed circa £160m (as opposed to Wembley £800m) which was a problem for the government at the time and in order to compound the governments decision to deny us the larger project, other issues were raised like why would Manchester City (we were in the 2nd Division at the time) need an 80,000 seater stadium anyway.

Based on this, the architects scaled down the plans to what they are today, but it was confirmed that the stadium would be built in such a way that it could easily be expanded to a 60,000 capacity stadium if required and eventually back to the original 80,000 capacity if so desired albeit the latter requiring a hell of a lot more work.

 

[Leyther]

Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Think you'll find the 80,000 seat stadium was for the Olympic bid, the plans were scaled back because it was only for the Commonwealth games. Also the 80,000 capacity would have had a permanent running track.

 

[waspish]

Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

The thing is if they made it 60k to the plans the owners might think its not big enough especially if we keep winning trophies!

Think our owners want around an 80k stadium and it be iconic

 

[The perfect fumble]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

The thing is if they made it 60k to the plans the owners might think its not big enough especially if we keep winning trophies!

Think our owners want around an 80k stadium and it be iconic

I'd love that to be true, it may be true, it may not, but I see precious little hard evidence to suggest any of the expansion plans for the stadium exist, anywhere, other than our collective imaginations.

 

[mikeskitz]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Looks like its going to be a busy time soon
<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1581573_masterplan-to-take-manchester-into-the-future" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... the-future</a>

 

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Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Looks like its going to be a busy time soon
<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1581573_masterplan-to-take-manchester-into-the-future" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... the-future</a>

I wonder if our new deal with the council has enabled this "vision" to take place?

I wonder what the "permanent attraction" could be for East Manchester.

One thing is for certain. Give it another 10-15 years and East Manchester and Manchester as a whole, will be totally unrecognisable from what it is today.

 

[S04]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Looks like its going to be a busy time soon
<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1581573_masterplan-to-take-manchester-into-the-future" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... the-future</a>

I wonder if our new deal with the council has enabled this "vision" to take place?

I wonder what the "permanent attraction" could be for East Manchester.

One thing is for certain. Give it another 10-15 years and East Manchester and Manchester as a whole, will be totally unrecognisable from what it is today.

It can hardly be a coincidence that they have the same timescale (2027) as the Etihad campus project?

 

[The perfect fumble]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Looks like its going to be a busy time soon
<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1581573_masterplan-to-take-manchester-into-the-future" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... the-future</a>

I wonder if our new deal with the council has enabled this "vision" to take place?

I wonder what the "permanent attraction" could be for East Manchester.

One thing is for certain. Give it another 10-15 years and East Manchester and Manchester as a whole, will be totally unrecognisable from what it is today.

It can hardly be a coincidence that they have the same timescale (2027) as the Etihad campus project?

Trust me, that's only because the only thing funded is the Etihad Campus, the rest is an unfunded wish list. When these things are put together they need to be anchored to something that's actually going to happen, this acts as a pull for other investors to take a punt.
The Campus is going to happen, as for the rest.....?