EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%

  • Total voters
    1,050
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Circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works because....

How is that circular reasoning?(I think you have the definition mixed up) This person knows more about that particular situation than any of you so I'd take their word on it, simple as that they are all dead against voting out.
 
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We can fund everything that's currently EU funded and still be 9 billion quid better off every year. In fact, it's got to be more efficient and make more sense to fund these things directly than to send the money to Brussels and have an unelected bureaucrat decide where to sepnd our money. Those on the In side struggling to think of anything better to spend 9 billion quid a year on?

It's a complete fallacy to give the argument we give X amount of money and get "completely nothing in return"(is that likely? I think not somehow I just got something through the door detailing all the perks of being in the EU but it's all lies?) anyone attempting such an argument has to seriously self assess before wanting to be taken seriously. What I'm saying is whatever they do take it wont be a case of "ohhh we have just freed up X amount to spend on whatever we like" that's just naive, there are benefits for being in the EU which once lost will have knock on effects such as the cost of fuel and so on.
 
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Apologies if this is being done already and I've missed it. Is there any chance we could have update each week on the movement of the Board regarding this issue? I think the 'out' camp have been winning since very early on, but has the gap mainly stayed as it is, or has it grown?

stayed just about the same, though theres a lot of gerrymandering about... probably
 
How is that circular reasoning?(I think you have the definition mixed up) This person knows more about that particular situation than any of you so I'd take their word on it, simple as that they are all dead against voting out.
Someone who is in an EU funded position tells you we benefit from being in the EU.
You believe it as a valid viewpoint without question, therefore forming your opinion on the matter.

"I think this is good because I know people who think this is good."


And again with the "your opinion doesnt count because of reasons!" You believe that I don't also work in an EU funded sector and believe it'd be better off if Britain wasn't in it? You came to that conclusion astonishingly quickly. You believe what you want to believe, and i'll do the same, whilst also questioning opposing views when I see them.
 
Someone who is in an EU funded position tells you we benefit from being in the EU.
You believe it as a valid viewpoint without question, therefore forming your opinion on the matter.

"I think this is good because I know people who think this is good."


And again with the "your opinion doesnt count because of reasons!" You believe that I don't also work in an EU funded sector and believe it'd be better off if Britain wasn't in it? You came to that conclusion astonishingly quickly.
Listen I'm not claiming to be the expert here or that I had a solid insightful argument(most of it bores me and I think most people don't know what they are talking about to boot)... as far as opinions go someone who works in a sector well informed on what is best for them(in fact they are also a Union Rep I believe) >>> some armchair expert who spent 10 mins googling and fancies themselves a financial and current affairs expert. Arguments given like oh it will be fine... in fact they will have even more funding because "reasons" ;) were why I mentioned said person(it wasn't some petty ploy to save face).
 
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Listen... someone who works in a sector well informed of what is best for them >>> some armchair expert who spent 10 mins googling and fancies themselves a financial and current affairs expert.
Again with the assumptions. You know nothing about me or how I have formed my opinions on the subject, who i've spoken to or whose opinions I value as credible on the subject.
 
The EU do not make, produce, fix, or contribute to earn one single penny, they have no money of their own to fund ANYTHING.

We give x amount of money and get back x minus nine billion quid, and even the "Get back" is not on things we want or need, but on what some un-elected bureaucrat decides to fund, how the f*ck does that make sense to anybody ?.
 
We give x amount of money and get back x minus nine billion quid, and even the "Get back" is not on things we want or need, but on what some un-elected bureaucrat decides to fund, how the f*ck does that make sense to anybody ?.

because an unelected bureaucrat trumps Gideon handing out left right and centre to his mates?
 
Again with the assumptions. You know nothing about me or how I have formed my opinions on the subject, who i've spoken to or whose opinions I value as credible on the subject.
I added something in an edit they are also a Union Rep so if you do work in a sector like that and you are strongly voting out then you are in the minority sorry.
 
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