EU referendum

[Monkfish]

Interesting I'm reading today that the French voters are wanting their own referendum and same happening in Germany as well on the back of the migrant crisis there. I think if we leave there will be a domino effect.

of course they do, but 'French voters' also want an Islamic State, 'French voters' also want to ban homosexuality etc etc

 

[hilts]

I do, you and your ilk

Pmsl

 

[YPhrunts]

Interesting I'm reading today that the French voters are wanting their own referendum and same happening in Germany as well on the back of the migrant crisis there. I think if we leave there will be a domino effect.

That is interesting. Do the French give a reason they want to leave the EU? Is it just down to out of control migration?
It's hard enough for us to secure our borders and we have a f*cking moat around us which the French don't have so I don't know how they envisage a secure France after a Frexit.
They also get a disproportionate level of agricultural subsidies so the reason for them wanting to leave cannot be financial. It would be mad for them to turn their backs on subsidies.

 

[RandomJ]

That is interesting. Do the French give a reason they want to leave the EU? Is it just down to out of control migration?
It's hard enough for us to secure our borders and we have a f*cking moat around us which the French don't have so I don't know how they envisage a secure France after a Frexit.
They also get a disproportionate level of agricultural subsidies so the reason for them wanting to leave cannot be financial. It would be mad for them to turn their backs on subsidies.

I guess when you have two horrible terrorist attacks in your country in a short period of time you want change no matter what it is.

 

[EalingBlue2]

I guess when you have two horrible terrorist attacks in your country in a short period of time you want change no matter what it is.

They will repent at leisure that's for sure. Europe crumbling under attack from on a global scale a small handful of nutters and all will be worse for it. Character and fortitude killed by a couple of generations of greedy self focused consumer obsessed people . It's pretty sad.

It seems in the 80's and since in the western world all values other than the pursuit of money for the individual have slowly eroded

 

[Malty]

The NHS has basically said it is unstainable if we stay in the UK

Our countries resources are getting ruined. Yeah it is nice to help foreigners etc but when there is danger of it putting our own UK residents in the same poverty some of these people have come from yeah.. that isn't right. Our first priority should always be our own.. Britain has for too long been "too nice" to migrants. It is time Britain gets tough and grew a fecking backbone (would the USA accept this bullshit!? they protect their own and put them first). Boris is spot on.

I have nothing against migrants coming into this country (the most skilled or the ones who will actually help build our resources and not drain/ruin it coming here for a free ride) but we can no longer have this open border broken system.. it is basically killing Great Britain.

 

[EalingBlue2]

The NHS has basically said it is unstainable if we stay in the UK

Our countries resources are getting ruined. Yeah it is nice to help foreigners etc but when there is danger of it putting our own UK residents in the same poverty some of these people have come from yeah.. that isn't right. Our first priority should always be our own.. Britain has for too long been "too nice" to migrants. It is time Britain gets tough and grew a fecking backbone (would the USA accept this bullshit!? they protect their own and put them first). Boris is spot on.

I have nothing against migrants coming into this country (the most skilled or the ones who will actually help build our resources and not drain/ruin it coming here for a free ride) but we can no longer have this open border broken system.. it is basically killing Great Britain.

Leaving the UK like it - that is a whole new argument

 

[stonerblue]

The NHS has basically said it is unstainable if we stay in the UK

Our countries resources are getting ruined. Yeah it is nice to help foreigners etc but when there is danger of it putting our own UK residents in the same poverty some of these people have come from yeah.. that isn't right. Our first priority should always be our own.. Britain has for too long been "too nice" to migrants. It is time Britain gets tough and grew a fecking backbone (would the USA accept this bullshit!? they protect their own and put them first). Boris is spot on.

I have nothing against migrants coming into this country (the most skilled or the ones who will actually help build our resources and not drain/ruin it coming here for a free ride) but we can no longer have this open border broken system.. it is basically killing Great Britain.

where and when did 'they' say this?

 

[stonerblue]

The NHS has basically said it is unstainable if we stay in the UK

Our countries resources are getting ruined. Yeah it is nice to help foreigners etc but when there is danger of it putting our own UK residents in the same poverty some of these people have come from yeah.. that isn't right. Our first priority should always be our own.. Britain has for too long been "too nice" to migrants. It is time Britain gets tough and grew a fecking backbone (would the USA accept this bullshit!? they protect their own and put them first). Boris is spot on.

I have nothing against migrants coming into this country (the most skilled or the ones who will actually help build our resources and not drain/ruin it coming here for a free ride) but we can no longer have this open border broken system.. it is basically killing Great Britain.

Oh yeah, i can see hundreds of thousands of British kids going without water, shelter or food, getting bombed and losing parents every day of the week if we let anyone else in..

fucking bollox

 

[bobmcfc]

Don't know why people are arguing about this. 54% of this forum are voting out, I imagine that the British public will be of a similar if not greater % of outers.
I'm voting out, we will be fine as we always have been if we are out.