EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%

  • Total voters
    1,050
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Will be voting later with wife and we are both out, as are several friends in the village, including a Nationalist SNP voter who cant believe the position his party has taken over Europe and the EU.
 
Can we, the citizens of the 'European Union' remove a corrupt Commissioner?

No they are 'rotated' every five years. Without a manifesto, just an on going argument about what regulations to pass. And that passes as democracy. And the ECJ rules supreme and can push through its laws with no resistance. That's democracy too, evidently.
 
Possibly because she's worried that in 10 years time, once TTIP is agreed, she'll be working for Serco Health Services or some US based health care group on a zero hours contract. And if she doesn't like it, they'll replace her with some foreigner who's less well-trained and will work longer for 25% less.

Meanwhile her bosses, who all used to be her bosses in the old NHS and were telling her to vote Remain, are on nice fat contracts with bonuses and share options.

At a guess.

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For the record, here are just a few of the views on the NHS – and other things – of leading members of the Brexit campaigns:

Michael Gove (co-convener Vote Leave) – in 2009 called for the dismantling of the NHS. Link here.

Matthew Elliott (chief executive Vote Leave) – is the founder of the Taxpayers Alliance – which has long argued for the break-up of the NHS and private competition in healthcare. Link here.

Philip Davies (Better Off Out Campaign) – once blocked plans to reverse private sector involvement in the NHS by talking out (or filibustering) a private member’s bill. Link here.

Dominic Cummings (campaign director Vote Leave) – once said less privileged children do worse at school due to what he called their “inferior genes”. Link here.

Dominic Raab (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – as recently as last month advocated privatising the NHS. Link here.

Peter Bone (campaign committee member Grassroots Out) – thinks the NHS should be forced to open up to US companies in the infamous TTIP trade deal. Link here.

Nigel Dodds (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – once campaigned for services to be legally withheld from people for being gay. Link here.

Steve Baker (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – in 2013 praised healthcare provision for the working classes in Britain before the NHS. Link here.

Douglas Carswell (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – in 2005 called for the “denationalising” and privatisation of healthcare provision in Britain. Link here.

Iain Duncan Smith (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – once blamed housing shortages on “pressure” from “the ethnic population”. Link here.

Lord Forsyth (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – in 2008, before Osborne and Cameron, was the first senior Tory to call for austerity and cuts in public services in response to the banking crisis. Link here.

Boris Johnson (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – once had to apologise for an article in a magazine he edited which claimed “blacks have lower IQs”. Link here.

Liam Fox (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – has called for “huge restrictions” on abortion, voted against same-sex marriage, and called for cuts to what he called the “wasteful” NHS. Link here.

Chris Grayling (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – in 2010 he said hotel owners should be able to bar gay people. Link here.

Dan Hannan (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – in 2009 called for the dismantling of the NHS, calling it a “relic”. Links here and here.

Lord Lawson (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – has argued pollution and global warming are good for the environment and cyclists are damaging London! Links here and here.

Priti Patel (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – thinks cutting disabled people’s support by £30 a week is justified. Link here.

John Whittingdale (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – thinks gay marriage will cause “distress”. Link here.

Andrea Leadsom (campaign committee member Vote Leave) – thinks the NHS should be forced to open up to US companies in the infamous TTIP trade deal. Link here.

Philip Hollobone (campaign committee member Grassroots Out) – also once blocked plans to reverse private sector involvement in the NHS by talking out (or filibustering) a private member’s bill. Also thinks the NHS should be forced to open up to US companies in the infamous TTIP trade deal. Links here and here.

Just saying …

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Which makes you wonder why sections of the remain campaign (namely the Greens) kept misleading voters saying that the "EU" has given us 'Human rights" when they should have clarified it's the ECHR and that remain or leave, we are all still protected by it.

Because the E.U. took ECHR decisions and put them into laws or directives which then influences UK law.
 
That is not attainable under a points system, one criteria of which is (quite rightly) going to revolve around English skills. I favour a points system but I don't pretend it's a fair and democratic way to do things and I certainly don't think it's worth risking our economic security to get it.

It doesn't have to be on a points system. I have worked and lived abroad in many countries where there wasn't a points system and it seemed to work well on the whole.
 
Just got back from voting out. Normally I'd just put my cross in the box with the usual handwriting pressure. This time I felt the need to press so hard I nearly tore the paper and broke the pencil. But I made sure it was embedded.
 
Just got back from voting out. Normally I'd just put my cross in the box with the usual handwriting pressure. This time I felt the need to press so hard I nearly tore the paper and broke the pencil. But I made sure it was embossed.

Snap, and snap.
 
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