EU referendum

[KenTheLandlord]

Ken, I'm fighting a losing battle here. It is so blatantly not the same I'm genuinely astonished that you can't see the difference. So you voted for Afzal Khan representing labour as MEP.

When you voted for him, what EU policies was he promising to implement if elected as the MEP in the EU parliament and under which party in the EU were those policies going to be Implemented?

I suspect the answer is you had no idea because those laws are conceived by the EU commission behind closed doors and then passed to those MEPs to be approved, effectively waved through.

It is you that is missing the point, the EU policies are the work of the members of the EU, not the work of a particular party as in the UK Parliament.

In the UK the different parties will have their say and you back them or not.
In the EU they are all represented, you align yourself with who you believe in. If you were right wing you go tory and they aline themselves with other tory type parties.
The discussions are then moulded by ALL the parties and those who have a greater vote have a greater say, not like here where what the tories say, goes.
Throw in the mental FPTP system and you end up with a party that has garnered less than 30% of the vote. That cannot happen in the EU as there cannot be an overriding party.
The EU is far more representative and the price is that things move slower but at least the input from all is there.

 

[manctheknife]

Anyone that isn't a British citizen can't vote in this election.

errrr they can mate. My Mrs is southern Irish, born, bred and passport holding. She will be voting.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

Anyone that isn't a British citizen can't vote in this election.

I saw an interview with a polish guy who had now aquired a British passport and he said he was voting leave which I thought was odd but as the interview continued he said there were just too many people coming over. Says a lot about solidarity for your kin in the same situation trying to come over and just proves everyone's out for their own back.

 

[KenTheLandlord]

Wrong again, the House of Lords under the act of Parliament can veto very few laws.

Even worse then, we have a dictatorship that can only be changed every 5 years, even the EU listens to all sides.
Whichever way you look at it, it is grim for the UK system and voter. I'll stick with the EU, slow as it maybe.

 

[argyle]

errrr they can mate. My Mrs is southern Irish, born, bred and passport holding. She will be voting.

My girlfriend is Polish and been here nearly 9 years and isn't eligible to vote.

 

[Dogtanian]

Strap a pair on kid!..Saddle up and make that X...you can do it. Either way.

Kid? I'm far far to old to be that, not much point in voting if I'm not sure who to vote for

 

[Bewar3them00n]

A vote for Boris and Farage is the death knell for many businesses who deal with Europe.

 

[urban genie]

Same here having our dinner in the canteen today 8 of us round the table every one voting leave

The leavers were asking why I am for remain and saw my points but a couolejust though where they live has changed too much and they blame europe.
The good thing is the discussion was well natured and everybody respected each others choice.

Well just voted after work here in gorton was about 20 others in there, you could see some looks and frowns off people , Iexpect people are trying to read the body language and what others are voting.

 

[KenTheLandlord]

My girlfriend is Polish and been here nearly 9 years and isn't eligible to vote.

British, Irish and Commonwealth citizens who live in the UK, along with Britons who have lived abroad for less than 15 years, are eligible to vote.

 

[Leto]

A vote for Boris and Farage is the death knell for many businesses who deal with Europe.

But Nigel drinks pints and Boris has funny hair so surely that means they are good people right?