When will we be richer please, and by how much?
Also presumably you could invert the figure over the same time to give an accurate view of the post brexit Apocalypse?
Can't wait.
So, you actually have absolutely no idea then - but are still happy to claim that anyone voting leave is a loon?Most of the studies I can find are looking over a 10-12 year period assuming the UK leaves in 2018, so 2018-2030
Think the government looked at 10 years but not a fanatic so couldn't tell you
Is this the same Osborne chap who has consistently been wrong in his predictions of our economic performance over a period of only three months?You want the average of all the independent studies? That will take some time, if you want a ballpark figure the amounts the Osbourne dossier came out with are actually fairly average, a lot of studies think it may be much worse
Is this the same Osborne chap who has consistently been wrong in his predictions of our economic performance over a period of only three months?
I'll wait for the pro Brexit funded studies that will be out in the next week or so to tell you then answer.
Fair point.Certainly is and in leaving you want to give him greater control.
YCNMTU. Have you tried saying this to yourself while looking in a mirror (substitute the word corrupt for loon). Oh the ironing!You really think every single opinion that doesn't back your personal beliefs must in some way be corrupt? Can you not even for a moment contemplate the fact you might just be wrong?
Is this the same Osborne chap who has consistently been wrong in his predictions of our economic performance over a period of only three months?
YCNMTU. Have you tried saying this to yourself while looking in a mirror (substitute the word corrupt for loon). Oh the ironing!
Maybe I've 'magnified' it.
Here's some facts 361m per week contribution to EU, offset by (the most optimistic figure) 300m in rebates, grants projects, etc.
This leaves 61m going from UK to EU. Sounds bad, but wait- trade with EU is worth 100m per week. Brilliant we're 39m up!
If we lose every single penny of that 100m in trade on leaving the EU it will cost us 39m per week. If we lost only 60% of our trade leaving in (admittedly) simple accounting terms would be cost neutral and we would have our sovereignty.
I hope you appreciate this is not only based on facts, but also without once referencing migrants/immigration, borders, benefits, or any of the other hobby horses of the far right. If you choose to considercthose things as relevent then the case in some terms becomes more compelling depending on your point of view.
My own figures are slightly kinder to the remainers than the chap in the video.
As you have not posted any figures of your own its hard to tell - or is this just another case of you parroting soundbites without having actually examined any figures. Post away, but bear on mind very few (if any) studies will be truly independent works of scholarly research as they will be funded by people with a vested interest in pushing their point. That's why I quite like the 'back of a fag packet' man off newsnight. He seems pretty independent, but I'll be the first to conceded not a neutral in his view.So do I use your figures or every single independent group who have painstakingly looked at all the facts and come up with wildly different figures?
Vote leave because you hate the Romanians, vote leave because you don't like Belgium's telling us how powerful our Hoover's can be but don't pretend there is any economic benefits - based on current figures and projections there isn't
You're really surprised that most research ends up finding in favor of the way of backer's way of thinking?You really think every single opinion that doesn't back your personal beliefs must in some way be corrupt? Can you not even for a moment contemplate the fact you might just be wrong?
Like the evidence the SNP came up with to prove Scotland could go alone and two years later we now see they would have been bankrupted?Heh that's the one, again there's no facts here, just educated evidence backed guesswork but it does have to be said pretty much every single source of note worldwide is in agreement
You're really surprised that most research ends up finding in favor of the way of backer's way of thinking?
You're still to come up with any positives.
What evidence do you need to understand that a Brexit would lead to policy decision sovereignty, greater democracy and control of borders?I just want a shred of evidence to back your opinion up, at the moment the brexit campaign is like climate change deniers. It seems to be to much to ask, which is why the British people will vote to remain
Like the evidence the SNP came up with to prove Scotland could go alone and two years later we now see they would have been bankrupted?
It is. I've already said that for my business, the U.K. Staying IN is far better.I still don't know why being richer isn't considered by you to be a positive
What evidence do you need to understand that a Brexit would lead to policy decision sovereignty, greater democracy and control of borders?
It is. I've already said that for my business, the U.K. Staying IN is far better.