European Super League | ECJ rule that UEFA and FIFA acted unlawfully in blocking Super League (p 29)

It's not a rebrand you're suggesting though.
Sorry, there might be a bit of crossed wires. I’m suggesting the prestige of the competition doesn’t originate from it being called the UEFA champions league. It originates from it being the premier club competition in Europe. Obviously if they change the format/rules that will have an effect on how it’s perceived. I’m just not sure UEFA can take the moral high ground of them being the bastions of European football.
 
A breakaway competition will never have the same prestige as one held under the well regulated and established FIFA Umbrella.
The money UEFA obtain through the Champions League and other competitions is shared through the national associations throughout Europe (and Isreal) for the promotion of ASSOCIATION FOOTBALL.
This concept is to try and deny money going to grass roots football in Lithuania or Macedonia but instead going to wealthy club owners to increase dividends or clear debts from their overspending.
As I explained in another reply, I’m not behind the idea of the super league. I’m just opposed to the idea of UEFA being the bastion of European football. They control football to suit whatever is in their own best interest and we as city fans should know that
 
If Superleague set up it will just help teams in southern Europe, British players may stay in UK, but all the others will be in the Sun. Fuck RM and Barca, hungry gits, they screwed their own leagues being greedy if they had followed the Prem model of collective bargaining for TV rights that wouldn’t have killed the product by making Valencia smaller than Wrexham.
in Italy they killed their own League byaccusing everyone of cheating every five minutes. Prem take note.
 
How much money does Uefa make from selling TV revenue for the CL? And how much do the clubs get from it?
And is this just UEFA or would all this be true with regards to the PL too?
Can't be arsed checking the fine details, but an article on the new CL format suggested UEFA made around 3.5 billion from the current format and would make approximately one billion more from next season due to more games in the mini-league stage that replaces the group stage. - I think the currency was Euro rather than pounds but it's still a huge increase. The article implied the increase was due higher broadcast revenue.
 
You could also frame the argument in that are you watching it because it has UEFA slapped on it or are you watching it because its the best teams in europe competing against each other. If the best teams in europe created the champions league away from UEFA with all the current rules then it would still get the same viewership.
That's also how the Six Nations is run. No direct involvement from any regulation body like World Rugby and it is still popular with fans of the sport.

Same with football if it was that way.
 
How much money does Uefa make from selling TV revenue for the CL? And how much do the clubs get from it?
And is this just UEFA or would all this be true with regards to the PL too?

The last UEFA accounts show income of 4.0 billion. 3.3 is distributed to clubs and national associations, 0.3 for running events and 0.3 for IT (56), employees (131) and other expenses (60). So that is around 85% reinvested in the game through the clubs and national associations.
 
That's also how the Six Nations is run. No direct involvement from any regulation body like World Rugby and it is still popular with fans of the sport.

Same with football if it was that way.
Totally different scenarios.
The 6 nations (previously 5 nations and before that just the 4) predates the Webb Ellis trophy by about 80 years, and money made from broadcasting, advertising and ticket sales in the 6 nations is spread through the club structures in each of the Unions involved, so grassroots are heavily invested in it as they benefit from it.
This proposal is about denying the revenue from the competition from grass roots and keeping it in the hands of shareholders and paying the debts of badly run clubs.
 
At present UEFA take a huge slice of the broadcasting and sponsor payments while the broadcasters take all the pay-per-view and advertising revenues. Streaming techhnology means that clubs can produce their own broadcasts and take the lot. The clubs own the content so should get the lions' share of the revenue. This is what the whole breakaway row is about. Last year's CL final apparently had 450 million viewers across the globe. Why should the clubs give away their content for peanuts? It is nothing to do with the law. It is globalisation (whether we like it or not). If UEFA wants to survive it will have to give up its monopoly.
UEFA stands for the Union of European Football Associations. It's just the body that represents Europe's Football Associations, like the Premier League is the body that represents the 20 clubs in the league.

This has never been about the money UEFA makes, it's about how it's shared. The likes of Real, Barça & Juvé feel they & the other elite G14 clubs have made the CL into the global brand it is, & they want a bigger slice of the pie for themselves.

The ESL is about self. The G14 believe that matches between themselves sell, so why shouldn't they control the competitions they compete in, & rake in the money for themselves?

The G14 have taken notice of the PL & want to follow suit, but with only 2 teams being subject to relegation & promotion, instead of the PL's 3. But herein lies the problem.

The gap between the PL & Football League clubs is widening. The FL wants a bigger share of the PL's pie for lower league & grassroots football, but the PL are usually very resistant to giving more, hence them shitting themselves about IREF who've promised to look at the funding of the football pyramid.

The ESL will be no different to the PL in that funding the football pyramid will be low down on their list of priorities.

Everyone says the world will get bored watching the same teams playing each other season after season, but isn't that what we've essentially got in the PL with City, ManUre, Dippers, Arse, Chavs & Spuds?

Bringing up the next level you've got Newcastle, Villa, WHU etc. You can also add a well run Brighton & a recently sold Everton who have a new stadium on the way.

If fans tune in to watch the PL in their hundreds of millions, the ESL reasons why won't they tune in to watch their Star League of 16-20 teams from City, Real, Barça, Atletico, Milan, Inter, Juvé, ManUre, Arse, Chavs, Spuds, Bayern, Dortmund, PSG, Marseille, Monaco, Lyon, PSV, Ajax, Benfica, Porto & Sporting?

Surely Real vs Lyon will attract a bigger global audience than Liverpool vs Sheff U? This is their calculation & is why the PL's conflicted. Six of its biggest clubs were involved in the ESL, but 3 of those clubs (the red tops) essentially run the PL.

They along with City (who had little choice), were prepared to sacrifice the PL's golden goose which laid its golden eggs, for the potentially bigger ESL goose.

Nothing's changed since the creation of the PL & CL. It's the elites who want to concentrate power & finance amongst themselves. Isn't this the very definition of Western Capitalism?
 
As I explained in another reply, I’m not behind the idea of the super league. I’m just opposed to the idea of UEFA being the bastion of European football. They control football to suit whatever is in their own best interest and we as city fans should know that
UEFA isn't the issue. The Football Associations who make up UEFA aren't so much of an issue. It's the G14 of European elite clubs who're the issue.

They want a bigger slice of the UEFA pie for themselves & more power. They believe they are the CL brand & should be remunerated as such, hence the plans for the ESL.

Unfortunately most global fans couldn't be arsed with Europe's Football pyramid arguments. Put Bayern vs Real in front of them, & they're tuning in.

This is what the ESL is counting on, & what UEFA fears.
 

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