Ever Thought About Suicide?

nijinsky's fetlocks said:
No - his response was not kneejerk.
Your posts,however,are the responses of a complete and utter fucking jerk.
Well if we're going to apply the code of conduct even-handedly...

I know peoffrey and he's nothing of the sort. He made a perfectly reasonable and valid point that innocents are affected by people killing themselves. I heard a news item on train drivers who were mentally shattered by someone throwing themselves under the train they were driving.

Where were all you sensitive souls when Ragnarok invited another poster to kill himself?
 
okay...

Basically I've had a few problems over the years which lead to my recent lapse.

This isn't particularly relevant but it's something I look back on as a "why?" moment. I had to be resuscitated at birth which in recent years lead to a "why didn't I just die?" attitude. I've had issues throughout my life, starting with being allergic to lactose which meant even simple things like having the same foods and drinks as my primary school mates was an issue, so I never felt like I really fit in. Then I moved to a upmarket private primary school and again had problems. I was cured of my allergy at 7 and we venture into secondary school, which was a mixed school.

Basically I didn't fit, I wasn't used to moving from an all-boys school back to a mixed school. I got bullied heavily which wasn't a nice experience and I didn't have anybody to really rely on. In the meantime when I was 11 my dad moved away to the other side of Europe to work and I've been left without a father figure in my life since. My parents had a protracted, very political(with me in the centre being persuaded and "informed about the situation") and messy divorce during me growing up through 13/14/15, my dad only really comes back for the odd weekend and otherwise it's just going on holidays with him, which is good but it's not the same as having a proper father in your life, and there grew the jealousy of my mates who all have a secure and happy family.

Back to school and I had one particular nemesis who was the son of the rugby teacher. This ended up in year 8 in a training session with me breaking my ankle, suspiciously yanked and twisted round whilst I was on the ground with only one person near me...Anyway he eventually left after being expelled for stealing phones.

Back in Year 7 we used to have tennis sessions, but the fields are seperate from the school so we had to walk down public roads, a group of 11/12 year olds. Basically a few of us were chatting at the back whilst the coach had bogged off into the distance at the front. 2 big black guys on bikes turned up and blocked us in, and closed off one of my mates with their bikes. I told them to leave him alone because he'd done nothing and one of them turned round and whacked me a couple of times in the face and round the back of my head, you can guess it hurt and I was 12 whilst they were late teen's and about 6ft if not taller.

All this lead to me becoming friends with girls, namely emotionally unstable ones as I felt I could connect with them better. Ended up falling head over heels for one that after 4 years of me not being able to go out with her for whatever reason fucked me off for good, 5 months yesterday to be precise, I also got cheated on by a previous girlfriend.

So I've had social problems, physical problems(suffer from several long term muscle problems) and with school workload and struggling with subjects fell into my strongest depression after gradually feeling more down over several years about last year. Suffered from insomnia and ended up not getting my grades for uni, just couldn't do it. Went back to college this year whilst my mates went to uni, essentially got lonely and ended up bunking 6 weeks off as I couldn't face it anymore. Got found out by my mother and got taken to the GP. She got me herbal anti-depressants and I'm on a counselling waiting list, still don't want to do it and feel pretty glum most of the time, with rare moments/days of feeling good about things.

I've half-heartedly tried to hang myself a couple of times, but never had the guts to follow through it, I'm a coward and scared of dying because I haven't got the guarantee of anything being beyond it, there's always the "what if" side that has stopped me.

so yeah, that's me...roughly, nothing compared to some of the horrible things you guys have had to go through.
 
I'm not sure that it can be classified as brave. Mostly all people who take their own lives are unbalanced mentally at the time. Many have consumed huge amounts of intoxicants prior to a fatal act. If the many people that have this urge could been shown a way out of their situation and helped to find reasons to live then so many might not feel compelled take their lives.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
okay...

Basically I've had a few problems over the years which lead to my recent lapse.

This isn't particularly relevant but it's something I look back on as a "why?" moment. I had to be resuscitated at birth which in recent years lead to a "why didn't I just die?" attitude. I've had issues throughout my life, starting with being allergic to lactose which meant even simple things like having the same foods and drinks as my primary school mates was an issue, so I never felt like I really fit in. Then I moved to a upmarket private primary school and again had problems. I was cured of my allergy at 7 and we venture into secondary school, which was a mixed school.

Basically I didn't fit, I wasn't used to moving from an all-boys school back to a mixed school. I got bullied heavily which wasn't a nice experience and I didn't have anybody to really rely on. In the meantime when I was 11 my dad moved away to the other side of Europe to work and I've been left without a father figure in my life since. My parents had a protracted, very political(with me in the centre being persuaded and "informed about the situation") and messy divorce during me growing up through 13/14/15, my dad only really comes back for the odd weekend and otherwise it's just going on holidays with him, which is good but it's not the same as having a proper father in your life, and there grew the jealousy of my mates who all have a secure and happy family.

Back to school and I had one particular nemesis who was the son of the rugby teacher. This ended up in year 8 in a training session with me breaking my ankle, suspiciously yanked and twisted round whilst I was on the ground with only one person near me...Anyway he eventually left after being expelled for stealing phones.

Back in Year 7 we used to have tennis sessions, but the fields are seperate from the school so we had to walk down public roads, a group of 11/12 year olds. Basically a few of us were chatting at the back whilst the coach had bogged off into the distance at the front. 2 big black guys on bikes turned up and blocked us in, and closed off one of my mates with their bikes. I told them to leave him alone because he'd done nothing and one of them turned round and whacked me a couple of times in the face and round the back of my head, you can guess it hurt and I was 12 whilst they were late teen's and about 6ft if not taller.

All this lead to me becoming friends with girls, namely emotionally unstable ones as I felt I could connect with them better. Ended up falling head over heels for one that after 4 years of me not being able to go out with her for whatever reason fucked me off for good, 5 months yesterday to be precise, I also got cheated on by a previous girlfriend.

So I've had social problems, physical problems(suffer from several long term muscle problems) and with school workload and struggling with subjects fell into my strongest depression after gradually feeling more down over several years about last year. Suffered from insomnia and ended up not getting my grades for uni, just couldn't do it. Went back to college this year whilst my mates went to uni, essentially got lonely and ended up bunking 6 weeks off as I couldn't face it anymore. Got found out by my mother and got taken to the GP. She got me herbal anti-depressants and I'm on a counselling waiting list, still don't want to do it and feel pretty glum most of the time, with rare moments/days of feeling good about things.

I've half-heartedly tried to hang myself a couple of times, but never had the guts to follow through it, I'm a coward and scared of dying because I haven't got the guarantee of anything being beyond it, there's always the "what if" side that has stopped me.

so yeah, that's me...roughly, nothing compared to some of the horrible things you guys have had to go through.

You really need to do the counselling,it does help.
You are young and life has so much in store for you,good and bad.
Good luck.
 
Girl I've known for a few months now and became really close to(as in friends) told me she has manic depression and has tried to kill herself before... that came as a bit of a surprise and I feel like a dick now for not knowing what to say to her :\
 
Jackson-ctid said:
Girl I've known for a few months now and became really close to(as in friends) told me she has manic depression and has tried to kill herself before... that came as a bit of a surprise and I feel like a dick now for not knowing what to say to her :\


A mate I knew for 5 years told me he tried to kill himself when he was younger, I was only the 2nd person he'd ever told about that. I completely stiffed, what do you say when somebody tells you something like that? Like you say in some ways silence is the best response because many people, like myself can't imagine what people go through, I don't see the point in partronising people by saying 'I know exactly how you feel' when nobody who has never been in that position can possibly fully understand. This thread has been a real eye opener to some of the things people go through
 
Progress or not? Today while i was on my lunch, i was going through some work i needed to do and left my office. When i got back i had a missed call on my mobile which i forgot to pick up on the way out. I remembered the last 3 digits, i recognised them straight away. My ex's number, the one i had deleted so i couldn't contact.
I could only think something bad had happened to either her or a member of her family, i ran downstairs and to the shop where she works, but she wasn't there and had gone out to get her lunch about 10 mins ago. So i then start fast marching through the shopping centre, eyes fixed, and she nudges me. Totally didn't see her.
I asked her if she was ok, what had happened, and she was, She had called me, the first time since we broke up, to see if i wanted anything for lunch.

Can someone explain to me what is going on, cos i have not got a clue and my head is pounding over this. She gave me a hug for being concerned too, which i always like, it kind of refills me inside, but i dont want to go getting my hopes up again, to explore deeper depths again because it has just been a misunderstanding.

Also, what do i do with her number? I have kept it, but should i delete it again and just keep in touch via pm on facebook or should i keep it on my phone and try to keep texts to a minimum?

I do care about her, and there isn't a morning when i dont think about her. Just dont know whether its a case of she cant be with me/cant be without me scenario.
 
Ricster said:
Progress or not? Today while i was on my lunch, i was going through some work i needed to do and left my office. When i got back i had a missed call on my mobile which i forgot to pick up on the way out. I remembered the last 3 digits, i recognised them straight away. My ex's number, the one i had deleted so i couldn't contact.
I could only think something bad had happened to either her or a member of her family, i ran downstairs and to the shop where she works, but she wasn't there and had gone out to get her lunch about 10 mins ago. So i then start fast marching through the shopping centre, eyes fixed, and she nudges me. Totally didn't see her.
I asked her if she was ok, what had happened, and she was, She had called me, the first time since we broke up, to see if i wanted anything for lunch.

Can someone explain to me what is going on, cos i have not got a clue and my head is pounding over this. She gave me a hug for being concerned too, which i always like, it kind of refills me inside, but i dont want to go getting my hopes up again, to explore deeper depths again because it has just been a misunderstanding.

Also, what do i do with her number? I have kept it, but should i delete it again and just keep in touch via pm on facebook or should i keep it on my phone and try to keep texts to a minimum?

I do care about her, and there isn't a morning when i dont think about her. Just dont know whether its a case of she cant be with me/cant be without me scenario.

she's probably slept on the whole "angry about facebook" thing and is trying to make it up in a friendly way.

Keep her number, if you start winding yourself up over it and becoming obsessed by keeping to strict "can have this/can't have that" it'll only keep fresh in your mind and that won't help.

Just be cool about it and see how it goes, don't beat yourself up over stuff, if you stay cool with each other maybe you'll be able to find ways of working together and you could possibly get back together, just see how it goes.

I've had 5 months of absolute zilch of a girl I adore, just be happy that she still cares and is interested in your well-being.
 
I haven't, but a lad that was in my year at school (I'm in college now) hung himself yesterday :( His mum died a few years ago and he's been having a real hard time recently! It's just tragic!
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Ricster said:
Progress or not? Today while i was on my lunch, i was going through some work i needed to do and left my office. When i got back i had a missed call on my mobile which i forgot to pick up on the way out. I remembered the last 3 digits, i recognised them straight away. My ex's number, the one i had deleted so i couldn't contact.
I could only think something bad had happened to either her or a member of her family, i ran downstairs and to the shop where she works, but she wasn't there and had gone out to get her lunch about 10 mins ago. So i then start fast marching through the shopping centre, eyes fixed, and she nudges me. Totally didn't see her.
I asked her if she was ok, what had happened, and she was, She had called me, the first time since we broke up, to see if i wanted anything for lunch.

Can someone explain to me what is going on, cos i have not got a clue and my head is pounding over this. She gave me a hug for being concerned too, which i always like, it kind of refills me inside, but i dont want to go getting my hopes up again, to explore deeper depths again because it has just been a misunderstanding.

Also, what do i do with her number? I have kept it, but should i delete it again and just keep in touch via pm on facebook or should i keep it on my phone and try to keep texts to a minimum?

I do care about her, and there isn't a morning when i dont think about her. Just dont know whether its a case of she cant be with me/cant be without me scenario.

she's probably slept on the whole "angry about facebook" thing and is trying to make it up in a friendly way.

Keep her number, if you start winding yourself up over it and becoming obsessed by keeping to strict "can have this/can't have that" it'll only keep fresh in your mind and that won't help.

Just be cool about it and see how it goes, don't beat yourself up over stuff, if you stay cool with each other maybe you'll be able to find ways of working together and you could possibly get back together, just see how it goes.

I've had 5 months of absolute zilch of a girl I adore, just be happy that she still cares and is interested in your well-being.

I'd echo this, Ric, basically. The worse thing you can do, right now, is work yourself up only fall from a great height, if her intentions are not the same as your hopes. If she texts, text back as a NORMAL interaction. Nothing more... yet.

You have to see what is going on, from afar. You're still in a vulnerable state and a high could easily turn to an almost bottomless low and you will cycle out of control.

Better to take deep breaths and control your mind and heart, then anything positive is a bonus.
 

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