Ever Thought About Suicide?

pauldominic said:
gaudinho's stolen car said:
Yeah, now you put it like that he's a right inconsiderate fucker. Thanks for the eye opener.

Absolutely no way on earth I'd be a train driver.

Respect to all of them.

-- Mon May 02, 2011 6:25 pm --

peoffrey said:
I once again apologise for the way it came out. I'm useless in situations involving subjects like this and I think I only got involved because it was something I knew about and had experienced. I logged off as soon as I read some responses so I could have a think about what I'd said. It should be clear that I would never purposely mean to upset anyone.

Above anything, some comfort should be brought to those who have had suicidal feelings because they now know they're not alone.

We all have those foot in mouth moments.

Its ok mate.

-- Mon May 02, 2011 6:28 pm --

mcfcliam said:
Moving story mate.

Bless you shady and good luck to you and your family in the future.

Well shared.

One thing I'm starting to understand and realise is the impact my illness has on other people.

Is she on a waiting list for something like CBT?


no therapy mate....she chose to try and deal with this her own way....she has been advised by her docs and also from talking to people who had come through this type of thing at group therapies that she needs medicinal help.

TBH, keeping busy minded and motivated as helped her more than previous medicines have...She started voluntary work at the local primary school last year, just 1 morning a week. This year she has upped her voluntary work to 3 mornings a week and also applied for the teaching assistants course.

She used to be a medical secretary and it would have been easier for her to go back to that role, but she felt her confidence would not last in that role. So she chose a complete new career path and with it a new chapter in her life.

I was a little unsure at first, due to the initial post natal depression being the catalyst for the depression and her now being surrounded by kids. TBH I think being around the kids and seeing the happiness when she helps in class as done more for her than the medicines would have done.
 
peoffrey said:
Lucky Toma said:
They estimate that a complete and utter tool posts on BlueMoon once a week. They come onto threads that dont concern them and make unnecessary and cruel comments. Nothing the original poster can do but to read it.
I hate the act of judgemental wummery but its especially bad when someone who has been brave and dignified enough to share a private grief is involved.

I myself talked about a Funeral I went to where someone had committed suicide. It's not something I mention very often for obvious reasons. 2 people in my life have taken that way out. How on earth does this thread not concern me?

A friend is a Train Driver who was unable to stop in time. The death of a stranger to him will be in his life forever and I think that's awful.

You've completely misread what I meant and your response is kneejerk.

No - his response was not kneejerk.
Your posts,however,are the responses of a complete and utter fucking jerk.
 
There has been a new therapy for depression that has proved very successful,

It is called Mindfulness Based Cognitive Behaviour Therapy

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mbct.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mbct.co.uk/</a>

It's not a easy subject to talk about, but it is very common in all it's forms
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
peoffrey said:
I myself talked about a Funeral I went to where someone had committed suicide. It's not something I mention very often for obvious reasons. 2 people in my life have taken that way out. How on earth does this thread not concern me?

A friend is a Train Driver who was unable to stop in time. The death of a stranger to him will be in his life forever and I think that's awful.

You've completely misread what I meant and your response is kneejerk.

No - his response was not kneejerk.
Your posts,however,are the responses of a complete and utter fucking jerk.

Can you pleeeeease stop posting replies like this Nijinsky?

I recognised the issue of train drivers years ago and thought that is one career I need to avoid.

Imagine seeing someone about to commit suicide and you have no chance whatsoever to avoid them.

That would make me potentially feel suicidal.

BTW I also get traumatic flash backs to work.

-- Mon May 02, 2011 7:27 pm --

nijinsky's fetlocks said:
peoffrey said:
I myself talked about a Funeral I went to where someone had committed suicide. It's not something I mention very often for obvious reasons. 2 people in my life have taken that way out. How on earth does this thread not concern me?

A friend is a Train Driver who was unable to stop in time. The death of a stranger to him will be in his life forever and I think that's awful.

You've completely misread what I meant and your response is kneejerk.

No - his response was not kneejerk.
Your posts,however,are the responses of a complete and utter fucking jerk.

Can you pleeeeease stop posting replies like this Nijinsky?

I recognised the issue of train drivers years ago and thought that is one career I need to avoid.

Imagine seeing someone about to commit suicide and you have no chance whatsoever to avoid them.

That would make me potentially feel suicidal.

BTW I also get traumatic flash backs to work.<br /><br />-- Mon May 02, 2011 7:39 pm --<br /><br />
shadygiz said:
pauldominic said:
Absolutely no way on earth I'd be a train driver.

Respect to all of them.

-- Mon May 02, 2011 6:25 pm --



We all have those foot in mouth moments.

Its ok mate.

-- Mon May 02, 2011 6:28 pm --



Well shared.

One thing I'm starting to understand and realise is the impact my illness has on other people.

Is she on a waiting list for something like CBT?


no therapy mate....she chose to try and deal with this her own way....she has been advised by her docs and also from talking to people who had come through this type of thing at group therapies that she needs medicinal help.

TBH, keeping busy minded and motivated as helped her more than previous medicines have...She started voluntary work at the local primary school last year, just 1 morning a week. This year she has upped her voluntary work to 3 mornings a week and also applied for the teaching assistants course.

She used to be a medical secretary and it would have been easier for her to go back to that role, but she felt her confidence would not last in that role. So she chose a complete new career path and with it a new chapter in her life.

I was a little unsure at first, due to the initial post natal depression being the catalyst for the depression and her now being surrounded by kids. TBH I think being around the kids and seeing the happiness when she helps in class as done more for her than the medicines would have done.

Everyone who suffers is different and has to find their own solutions.

One thing that consistently helps is acceptance, love and support from you and your family.

If she goes back to her GP, he or she can refer her for an assessment by your community mental health team that generally happens quite quickly.

The thing about CBT is that everyone in life have good and bad experiences that can either damage you as a person or give you more wisdom.

There are no in betweens and if people have a rush of bad experiences, it takes *years* to recover.
 
pauldominic said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
No - his response was not kneejerk.
Your posts,however,are the responses of a complete and utter fucking jerk.

Can you pleeeeease stop posting replies like this Nijinsky?

I recognised the issue of train drivers years ago and thought that is one career I need to avoid.

Imagine seeing someone about to commit suicide and you have no chance whatsoever to avoid them.

That would make me potentially feel suicidal.

BTW I also get traumatic flash backs to work.

-- Mon May 02, 2011 7:27 pm --

nijinsky's fetlocks said:
No - his response was not kneejerk.
Your posts,however,are the responses of a complete and utter fucking jerk.

Can you pleeeeease stop posting replies like this Nijinsky?

I recognised the issue of train drivers years ago and thought that is one career I need to avoid.

Imagine seeing someone about to commit suicide and you have no chance whatsoever to avoid them.

That would make me potentially feel suicidal.

BTW I also get traumatic flash backs to work.

-- Mon May 02, 2011 7:39 pm --

shadygiz said:
no therapy mate....she chose to try and deal with this her own way....she has been advised by her docs and also from talking to people who had come through this type of thing at group therapies that she needs medicinal help.

TBH, keeping busy minded and motivated as helped her more than previous medicines have...She started voluntary work at the local primary school last year, just 1 morning a week. This year she has upped her voluntary work to 3 mornings a week and also applied for the teaching assistants course.

She used to be a medical secretary and it would have been easier for her to go back to that role, but she felt her confidence would not last in that role. So she chose a complete new career path and with it a new chapter in her life.

I was a little unsure at first, due to the initial post natal depression being the catalyst for the depression and her now being surrounded by kids. TBH I think being around the kids and seeing the happiness when she helps in class as done more for her than the medicines would have done.

Everyone who suffers is different and has to find their own solutions.

One thing that consistently helps is acceptance, love and support from you and your family.

If she goes back to her GP, he or she can refer her for an assessment by your community mental health team that generally happens quite quickly.

The thing about CBT is that everyone in life have good and bad experiences that can either damage you as a person or give you more wisdom.

There are no in betweens and if people have a rush of bad experiences, it takes *years* to recover.

Paul, peoffrey commented on my post and was pulled for being a bit insensitive. He has now apologised to me, because he realises his intention may have been misconstrued. I am not sure why you accepted his apology on my behalf, but fair enough. Nijinsky said what he thought, which a couple of people have agreed with, there's no need to police the board it can make things worse.
 
I really don't know how they can be so brave to take their own life. I have often felt like it when er in doors starts and i feel like driving head on into a brick wall.
But i then think sod her ill put MY seat belt on. that's the only thing that gets me mad with rage so in my case it's rage that makes me comtemplate suicide not feeling low. I have money worries but i don't give a fuck about what others think about me, if i end up living in a dinky flat, but happy then so be it.
My heart goes out to anyone who's feeling low and thinks their world is ending because life has shown them a bad hand. I have a genetic disease that will eventually end my life in a lot of pain. I refuse to take pain killers now because i dont want to be drugged up later.
So when someone says to me think about your future ... thats something i don't want to be reminded of. Anyway am I a little stronger or just a coward ? I'm not so sure..
 
Here are a couple of my posts on related topics. I just wanted to post them again in case they help anybody.


<a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=211429&p=4180887&hilit=nlp#p4180887" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=5&t=211429&p=4180887&hilit=nlp#p4180887</a>

The only advice I can give to anyone from my experience is to go and see an NLP coach.

For 6 years I was treated for clinical depression and was being treated for bipolar this time last year. I was on a load of different meds, including Diazepam and anti psychotic mood stabilizers.

I had CBT, had a stay in the Priory and nothing helped. The techniques used in NLP have changed my life completely, I sometimes have to pinch myself.

It was just under a year ago that I saw my NLP coach for the first time and since then my life just gets better and better. In fact, my life is now amazing and that word never used to be in my vocabulary!

If anybody wants more information, feel free to PM as I am also a practitioner of NLP myself now and can put you in touch with a fantastic coach that has helped me and many others overcome many different psychiatric problems.

Here is a link for anyone wanting to take a look into it.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.noosatraining.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.noosatraining.com/</a>

Whatever it is you choose to do, all the best and just keep in mind that these things can be overcome and left behind.


<a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=179985&p=3355090&hilit=nlp#p3355090" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=5&t=179985&p=3355090&hilit=nlp#p3355090</a>

Iv been treated as bipolar light for the last two and a half years. The high's almost bankrupt me and the lows almost killed me.

I had to think twice about posting on a thread of this nature again on this forum having been called a loony tune and a weakling in the past.

I'm only posting as I hope this will be of benefit to anyone suffering with mental illness.

I recently had what is called a 'breakthrough' with a practitioner of NLP (neuro linguistic programming), hypnotherapy and Time Line Therapy. It cost me a lot of money and yet it was worth ten fold what I paid as it really has transformed my life.

I have not suffered any of my previous symptoms since and it made that much of an impression on me that I have become a practitioner of NLP myself so that I can help people like I have been helped. I was going to go down the counselling/psychotherapy route, yet I couldn't advocate it after experiencing the changes that can be made with NLP and the other two branches of therapy mentioned above.

I would seriously recommend that anyone with psychiatric/emotional problems at least look into NLP, you will be astounded at the changes you can make.

All the best to those affected by mental illness in any way!
 
gaudinho's stolen car said:
pauldominic said:
Can you pleeeeease stop posting replies like this Nijinsky?

I recognised the issue of train drivers years ago and thought that is one career I need to avoid.

Imagine seeing someone about to commit suicide and you have no chance whatsoever to avoid them.

That would make me potentially feel suicidal.

BTW I also get traumatic flash backs to work.

-- Mon May 02, 2011 7:27 pm --



Can you pleeeeease stop posting replies like this Nijinsky?

I recognised the issue of train drivers years ago and thought that is one career I need to avoid.

Imagine seeing someone about to commit suicide and you have no chance whatsoever to avoid them.

That would make me potentially feel suicidal.

BTW I also get traumatic flash backs to work.

-- Mon May 02, 2011 7:39 pm --



Everyone who suffers is different and has to find their own solutions.

One thing that consistently helps is acceptance, love and support from you and your family.

If she goes back to her GP, he or she can refer her for an assessment by your community mental health team that generally happens quite quickly.

The thing about CBT is that everyone in life have good and bad experiences that can either damage you as a person or give you more wisdom.

There are no in betweens and if people have a rush of bad experiences, it takes *years* to recover.

Paul, peoffrey commented on my post and was pulled for being a bit insensitive. He has now apologised to me, because he realises his intention may have been misconstrued. I am not sure why you accepted his apology on my behalf, but fair enough. Nijinsky said what he thought, which a couple of people have agreed with, there's no need to police the board it can make things worse.


No way I'm a policeman, but Colin has been very insensitive on many occasions to me and its totally unnecessary.

Its a City supporters football forum.

Thats all.

Off topic should be helpful, funny and have intelligent debates.
 
bluezi said:
I really don't know how they can be so brave to take their own life. I have often felt like it when er in doors starts and i feel like driving head on into a brick wall.
But i then think sod her ill put MY seat belt on. that's the only thing that gets me mad with rage so in my case it's rage that makes me comtemplate suicide not feeling low. I have money worries but i don't give a fuck about what others think about me, if i end up living in a dinky flat, but happy then so be it.
My heart goes out to anyone who's feeling low and thinks their world is ending because life has shown them a bad hand. I have a genetic disease that will eventually end my life in a lot of pain. I refuse to take pain killers now because i dont want to be drugged up later.
So when someone says to me think about your future ... thats something i don't want to be reminded of. Anyway am I a little stronger or just a coward ? I'm not so sure..

Mate you're the first person to describe it as brave and bloody good on you for doing so.
To end your own life you need to be one of two things, and usually both - brave and desperate beyond reason.

Yes I can see why its sometimes described as selfish because I'm currently typing this from a warm house with only very nominal concerns. So the parameters I deem 'selfish' are vastly, vastly different to how it is for people in that state of mind.
But really its as incongruous of anyone who is lucky enough to currently be in possession of a rational, balanced mind to describe a suicidal person as being selifsh as it is describing a starving man who eats a meal greedy.

The reason I didnt do it all those years ago was purely because I didnt have the guts. It is a phenominally gutsy thing to do. And by that I am referring to the act itself and not the consequences.
A suicidal person is not in a fit state of mind to even begin to consider the consequences.
 

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