Everton 2018/19 thread

City_Sean said:
Richarlison for £50m is just absolutely absurd. They've absolutely pissed their money up the wall.

£100m+ on him and Sigurdsson.
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I think they are both decent players, but the transfer fees are truly ridiculous. It would have been worse though if the players were useless. In each case I can see a player.
 
Watched him a few times last season he does have something he’s 21 and 35m then addons of 15m which I presume are not easy to get to probably about right that fee seems Silva and Everton feel he is a player who will vastly improve.
 
Caught rabbit like in their near neighbours spending headlights? Almost HAVE to splash some cash to keep the blue dippers happy? Another tough season for them I suspect
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Afternoon Kev.

I have this debate a lot with people. I think my main point with Allardyce is fans automatically assume it’s going to be negative football and he sets out for a draw. It’s simply not true.

Allardyce at West Ham produced at times awful to watch football and other times attractive entertaining football.
He often mixed up formations.
We played 2 up front when we beat City at home. Sakho and Valencia.
He played no one up front when we beat Spurs 3-0 Away !

Got us promoted first season and we were stuffing teams. 6-0 against Brighton that season, I also went Forest away and we won 4-0. He walked into a shambles of a club when we got relegated and he completely turned us around.
First season back in Prem he got us top 10, we played good football.
Season after that was poor, we wasn’t great overall. Loads of injury’s. But still a stable prem club. Yet that was the final straw for our fans - they wanted Barcelona football and to win every game. It’s bollox. They wouldn’t allow any more time and demanded change of manager - it’s not just our fans, see it all the time with clubs.

Everton under ‘attacking’ manager Koeman. What great football was they playing - it was awful and they were heading for relegation.
Allardyce came in, and got them to the cusp of a European spot ! ... but like typical football fans they weren’t happy because they weren’t being ‘entertained’ ...

Fans are sheep. Once they moan about a manager all fans start jumping on board and it’s seems to be the likes of Allardyce that get the brunt of it, probably because their English and don’t have a fancy name.

Too many people associate ‘unentertaining’ football with the manager - it’s simply not true. Under Bilic we was great to watch. Why? We had Payet. What happened when he left. We was horrifically bad to watch. So many factors contribute to ‘entertainment’ - is it entertaining when Madrid beat a lower league team 7-0. Some find it so. Others don’t.
Is it entertaining when a team like Huddersfield hold on for dear life, camping the box and hoofing it against someone like Liverpool. Others would say so. Others wouldn’t.

Just because you pay a lot for a ticket should not mean the manager/players have to personally ‘entertain’ you. They don’t set the ticket prices. Their job is simply to win.
Do people ask for a refund if the film at the cinema wasn’t entertaining for them ?

You should go and support your club through thick and thin and hope for the win. Entertainment is just a bonus.
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I’m not saying he doesn’t go into shambles clubs and sets them straight. Of course there’s going to be some great performances along the way. The fact that you’re individually listing them though tells me they are not the norm.

The fact is though that Newcastle, West Ham, a lot of England and now Everton fans have all voiced their displeasure at his brand of football. They can’t all be wrong.
 
£50m for Richarlison is plain ridiculous. The guy got 5 goals and 8 assists last season, but those 5 goals came in the first 12 games. He scored the square root of fuck all in the remainder of the season. I remember the press ripping us to shreds for spending the same amount on an England full back last summer. I look forward to seeing Nick Harris ripping the blue Mickeys to shreds for shelling out £100m on Sigurdsson and Richarlison in the last 12 months.
 
jimharri said:
£50m for Richarlison is plain ridiculous. The guy got 5 goals and 8 assists last season, but those 5 goals came in the first 12 games. He scored the square root of fuck all in the remainder of the season. I remember the press ripping us to shreds for spending the same amount on an England full back last summer. I look forward to seeing Nick Harris ripping the blue Mickeys to shreds for shelling out £100m on Sigurdsson and Richarlison in the last 12 months.
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Excellent the Sterling haters will want 150m at least for the useless non finishing **** now :)
 
Blue Hefner said:
Aren’t they overpaying as a sweetener as they tapped Silva up 9 months ago? Essentially, a bit of compensation
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this sort of thing does go on in football and players/manager links to agents means you are told what to do and move when its right for the agent
 
When you look at what we I paid for Kev, Sane, Sterling etc etc, just shows you how much good business we did, they could have got Ronaldo in monetary terms for him and Gylfi Siggurdson :-) (excuse the spelling)
 
Blue Til Death said:
When you look at what we I paid for Kev, Sane, Sterling etc etc, just shows you how much good business we did, they could have got Ronaldo in monetary terms for him and Gylfi Siggurdson :-) (excuse the spelling)
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They couldn't, because he wouldn't sign for them. Remember Khaldoon talking about phases and how Barry, Bellamy, De Jong etc were phase 1, Silva, Yaya, Aguero, Nasri phase 2 (basically the second lot wouldn't have signed for us without the first lot + a star like Tevez in place)? Well ourselves and Juve are in phase 4/5 in that regard and Everton are still somewhere in phase 1. They're building a team that can challenge for top 4 before building a team that can go on to bigger things than that.
 
citykev28 said:
You’re making the mistake of assuming you know what people want though Mark. Look, there’s only 3 trophies available for 85 professional clubs. They know full well that apart from a freak season like Leicester’s, they’re not going to win the league. They might win either of the cups but that’s still highly unlikely.

People surely go to watch football for enjoyment. I enjoyed the social side of it when we slumped down to the third tier and came back. The football was largely shite.

Now I’m approaching 40, I take my lads. I drive so can’t drink but have come to appreciate the stunning football on show. They do things that we can’t which is why we liked football in the first place - we wanted to be them but weren’t good enough.

I reckon most of us get to a stage where we want to watch our team on a Saturday afternoon and be entertained. Us City fans are lucky because we’re getting the best of both worlds.

Can you honestly say that you’d be happy to hit 42 points, season in/season out? Never go for a cup because it’s financially better for your board to ensure Premier League survival? Do you not want to go to a match not knowing whether you’ll win 4-3, lose 4-3 or draw 3-3 but confident you’ll be entertained?

Loads of Hull City fans who I work with have said they prefer the championship where they might beat Ipswich 3-1 one week but lose to QPR 3-2 the next because they are more entertained at the match each week rather than watching Steve Bruce (when he was there) park the bus to try to grind out a 0-0 against Crystal Palace and pray they get a lucky break from a set piece.

If that’s what you enjoy then good luck to you but try not to look down on those fans who want more for their £40 each week.
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Just caught up on this thread, great post that mate and one I totally agree with. Had this debate before about allerdyce and the like, I want entertainment not mind numbing boredom.
 
The other half, who is a Toffee, says the rumour mill at Everton is saying Silva has told something like 9 of the first team squad that they do not figure in his future plans.
 
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