Everton (a) post-match thread

Manchester33 said:
I don't know to be honest. I thought it looked like Rodri moved his arm out towards the ball. The only saving grace was that there were no Everton players around him, so it's hardly like it stopped them scoring or something.

My point is that we got away with one. On another day, with a different ref, they might have given that, and if the ref on Sat had given it, there's no way they'd overturn it!

But I'll also point out that there's no way we're favourably treated by refs. Compare us to Liverpool who get penalty after penalty for very little! It's the first time since Swansea in the FA cup that we've benefitted from a bad decision. We've probably had 20+ bad decisions against us in that time.
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I agree mate, I was watching in my local and I said VAR would definitely give a penalty, was thinking when it wasn’t given dies Var ref Kavanagh from my home town Ashton have a soft spit for City, was then informed by Inter that he’s definitely a rag. Think we did get away with it but as I said before Kavanagh gave the green light for West Ham’s equaliser from a “handball”. There’s many refs/vars that would have given a penalty.
 
Is KDB this weeks 'whipping boy' then? If so please stop and think about the times when KDB has saved our bacon. OK, he may be going through a bit of a rough patch, although I wasn't there on Saturday I was at the last home matches and he seemed fine to me. The lads are all looking slightly jaded but as I always say a bad day at the office happens.

Please leave KDB alone. Thanks. :-)




I know there are bound to be differing opinions on a forum but to say Kev should be nowhere near the team is a bit much. IMHO........after all not everyone agrees with me that John Boy is the best but I will keep saying he is. :-)
 
trevorriley said:
first half didnt make good entertainment from the terraces, everton really battled with us and pressed, quicker to snatch the ball than we where. All made a first half of about 2 shits on target.

second half was better, we got the passes together and looked the most likely to score all the half.

dictated possesion, we had far more passes, we had more corners, we had more shots. But according to MOTD we got a stuffy given goal and ref was on our side with pen ( even though the whole game the ref was very pro Everton ) and everton deserved the game....... so full of shit.
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Gets messy if they're not on target
 
mat said:
That's a bit red scouse.

Thought they were better than that?
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Why did they boo our players, especially Sterling, the entire match? I thought it was pathetic, especially considering the great spirit shown at the start of the match to support Ukraine. It backfired though because it certainly fired us up in the second half.
I don't blame them for being gutted about the penalty shout. It was a blatant penalty in my view but we have suffered badly from VAR in the past so were probably due one. The formal complaint about the decision though is embarrassing.
 
blueparrot said:
Unless you have a picture showing it hitting his arm and not the sleeve then nothing definite about it.
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I don't think a picture tells the full story. If you watch the clip the ball is moving relatively slowly, the spin takes it away from Rodri and he moves his arm out, towards the ball to cushion it down. It was just a natural reaction for Rodri to do it - no time to think. But going off my very limited experience of playing football I do think that's a handball.

I think looking at Rodri Immediately afterwards, he thinks it's a pen. Look at the reaction of the crowd behind the goal, everyone calls for it.

I'm as biased towards City as anyone and I reckon it was stonewall. I'm not saying we're cheats. I'm not saying the refs have won us three points etc. I just think the ref has made an honest mistake (was hard for him and the linesman to determine if it was or not in real-time), but he definitely should have checked it on the monitor and if he had I'm under no doubt he'd have given a pen.
 
Manchester33 said:
I don't think a picture tells the full story. If you watch the clip the ball is moving relatively slowly, the spin takes it away from Rodri and he moves his arm out, towards the ball to cushion it down. It was just a natural reaction for Rodri to do it - no time to think. But going off my very limited experience of playing football I do think that's a handball.

I think looking at Rodri Immediately afterwards, he thinks it's a pen. Look at the reaction of the crowd behind the goal, everyone calls for it.

I'm as biased towards City as anyone and I reckon it was stonewall. I'm not saying we're cheats. I'm not saying the refs have won us three points etc. I just think the ref has made an honest mistake (was hard for him and the linesman to determine if it was or not in real-time), but he definitely should have checked it on the monitor and if he had I'm under no doubt he'd have given a pen.
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I think it should be handball, but by the current rules ,the t-shirt line,there was no definitive image that shows any reason for VAR to over rule the on field decision.
 
To settle an argument, I've looked at the full handball incident again from start to finish, paused it, played it in slow motion etc

I now think that the ref gave a free kick for offside in the follow up play after the ball was cleared. The left back was flagged offside (even though he wasn't). This is kind of confirmed by where the free kick was taken from, with the ref making Eddie move it back twice

However I'm 90% sure Richarlison was offside. If the pen was awarded (and that's a big IF) I suspect that VAR would have then gone back to look at the offside and the pen would have been overturned
 
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