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[Shaelumstash]

I'm sure they did and also that's why they hate Pellegrini, as he gives them no ammo at all. I've had two privately give me severe grief about MP and the fact he gives them nothing. And one was a serious and very well-respected journalist, not a red-top click-bait merchant. It actually got quite heated at one point.

I've thought this before. I can understand why journalists get frustrated with him. Their job is to produce stories on City every other day, and they get absolutely nothing out of the manager.

I understand why Pellegrini straight bats every question, and I respect him for it. He doesn't want the limelight and he wouldn't even do press conferences if he wasn't contractually obliged to do so.

I think Guardiola will be much better for the PR of the club in that respect. He's a lot warmer, more enthusiastic, charismatic.

I'm not sure if you've read Pep Confidential, but I'd highly recommend it. One of the things I found interesting is his take on the differences in the PR of Barca and Bayern. He said at Barca he was left to deal with the press alone. While he was simply the head coach, he felt he had to speak on behalf of the club all the time on every issue. He said the pressure became overwhelming as he felt like he was the spokesman for Barcelona and Catelonia at times.

In contrast at Bayern he said he much preferred the structure of the club. Hoeness, Rummeigge and Sammer all regularly spoke to the press and were the club spokesmen. They would deal with any club matters in the press. They would also come out and back Pep if he was getting any criticism in the press. That left Guardiola to concentrate on football in his press conferences, and he didn't have that added pressure of being the club spokesman as well as head coach.

I think City really lack in this way. Our only voice in the media is Pellegrini, and he doesn't want to be it, he's simply obliged to be. I don't know if there is anyone at the club who is suitable to take on a similar role to Hoeness, Rummenigge or Sammer. Perhaps we need to appoint one. But having a voice who speaks directly for the club, someone recognisable, comfortable with the media would go a long way to stopping these kind of stories that we are seeing today. It shouldn't all be down to Pellegrini, that's outside of his remit. A hushed press briefing from Vicky Kloss doesn't have quite the same impact as a one delivered directly by Karl-Heinz Rummenigge.

 

[JGL07]

Just remember who said what and don't go buying their papers.

I don't think any genuine football fan would scoff at 50k. A few years ago, we couldn't get 25k for midweek Cup games. That used to really annoy me. A cup quarter final was as good as it got, and we couldn't fill a considerably smaller ground then when it really was a big deal. But times are changing and City's crowds are on the up

I recall going to a League Cup tie against Chelsea some time in the fag end of the Peter Swales era when the crowd was around 16,000. I also remember being stuck in a queue at the turnstiles on the Kippax and missing the first 25 minutes.

 

[worsleyweb]

I've thought this before. I can understand why journalists get frustrated with him. Their job is to produce stories on City every other day, and they get absolutely nothing out of the manager.

I understand why Pellegrini straight bats every question, and I respect him for it. He doesn't want the limelight and he wouldn't even do press conferences if he wasn't contractually obliged to do so.

I think Guardiola will be much better for the PR of the club in that respect. He's a lot warmer, more enthusiastic, charismatic.

I'm not sure if you've read Pep Confidential, but I'd highly recommend it. One of the things I found interesting is his take on the differences in the PR of Barca and Bayern. He said at Barca he was left to deal with the press alone. While he was simply the head coach, he felt he had to speak on behalf of the club all the time on every issue. He said the pressure became overwhelming as he felt like he was the spokesman for Barcelona and Catelonia at times.

In contrast at Bayern he said he much preferred the structure of the club. Hoeness, Rummeigge and Sammer all regularly spoke to the press and were the club spokesmen. They would deal with any club matters in the press. They would also come out and back Pep if he was getting any criticism in the press. That left Guardiola to concentrate on football in his press conferences, and he didn't have that added pressure of being the club spokesman as well as head coach.

I think City really lack in this way. Our only voice in the media is Pellegrini, and he doesn't want to be it, he's simply obliged to be. I don't know if there is anyone at the club who is suitable to take on a similar role to Hoeness, Rummenigge or Sammer. Perhaps we need to appoint one. But having a voice who speaks directly to the club, someone recognisable, comfortable with the media would go a long way to stopping these kind of stories that we are seeing today. It shouldn't all be down to Pellegrini, that's outside of his remit. A hushed press briefing from Vicky Kloss doesn't have quite the same impact as a one delivered directly by Karl-Heinz Rummenigge.

Prestwich Blue could do it.

 

[Hesh]

Tell you what it will continue when Pep rolls up mate aswell, why City? Big transfer budget blah blah blah.

Just wait til Pep loses a game-they will sharpen their knives then alright.

Totally agree about our PR team aswell, United didn't and still don't allow shit like this to go viral, a few need fucking banning for me who write shit about us- we all know who they are.

I can understand us not doing things the United way which a lot of the time looked like Baconface was bullying journos and I understand that our owners want to be perceived as good guys and so they've gone down the road of trying to curry favour with the media but there has to come a point at which they realise that strategy is not working.

The amazing regeneration of parts of East Manchester and the benefit to the community there is barely given a mention and it should be. We're so much more than just a faceless corporation milking it's customers to the nth degree like the rags are but to your casual neutral fan i think we're perceived as "just a shit man united".

Things can't go on like this, either change the personnel or change the tactics or ideally both

 

[stonerblue]

I quite like leaving buying my ticket til the last minute but thanks for your concern written media

me too.

 

[Dodge]

I've thought this before. I can understand why journalists get frustrated with him. Their job is to produce stories on City every other day, and they get absolutely nothing out of the manager.

I understand why Pellegrini straight bats every question, and I respect him for it. He doesn't want the limelight and he wouldn't even do press conferences if he wasn't contractually obliged to do so.

I think Guardiola will be much better for the PR of the club in that respect. He's a lot warmer, more enthusiastic, charismatic.

I'm not sure if you've read Pep Confidential, but I'd highly recommend it. One of the things I found interesting is his take on the differences in the PR of Barca and Bayern. He said at Barca he was left to deal with the press alone. While he was simply the head coach, he felt he had to speak on behalf of the club all the time on every issue. He said the pressure became overwhelming as he felt like he was the spokesman for Barcelona and Catelonia at times.

In contrast at Bayern he said he much preferred the structure of the club. Hoeness, Rummeigge and Sammer all regularly spoke to the press and were the club spokesmen. They would deal with any club matters in the press. They would also come out and back Pep if he was getting any criticism in the press. That left Guardiola to concentrate on football in his press conferences, and he didn't have that added pressure of being the club spokesman as well as head coach.

I think City really lack in this way. Our only voice in the media is Pellegrini, and he doesn't want to be it, he's simply obliged to be. I don't know if there is anyone at the club who is suitable to take on a similar role to Hoeness, Rummenigge or Sammer. Perhaps we need to appoint one. But having a voice who speaks directly for the club, someone recognisable, comfortable with the media would go a long way to stopping these kind of stories that we are seeing today. It shouldn't all be down to Pellegrini, that's outside of his remit. A hushed press briefing from Vicky Kloss doesn't have quite the same impact as a one delivered directly by Karl-Heinz Rummenigge.

Buzzer would sort the fuckers out mate..

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I've thought this before. I can understand why journalists get frustrated with him. Their job is to produce stories on City every other day, and they get absolutely nothing out of the manager.

I understand why Pellegrini straight bats every question, and I respect him for it. He doesn't want the limelight and he wouldn't even do press conferences if he wasn't contractually obliged to do so.

I think Guardiola will be much better for the PR of the club in that respect. He's a lot warmer, more enthusiastic, charismatic.

I'm not sure if you've read Pep Confidential, but I'd highly recommend it. One of the things I found interesting is his take on the differences in the PR of Barca and Bayern. He said at Barca he was left to deal with the press alone. While he was simply the head coach, he felt he had to speak on behalf of the club all the time on every issue. He said the pressure became overwhelming as he felt like he was the spokesman for Barcelona and Catelonia at times.

In contrast at Bayern he said he much preferred the structure of the club. Hoeness, Rummeigge and Sammer all regularly spoke to the press and were the club spokesmen. They would deal with any club matters in the press. They would also come out and back Pep if he was getting any criticism in the press. That left Guardiola to concentrate on football in his press conferences, and he didn't have that added pressure of being the club spokesman as well as head coach.

I think City really lack in this way. Our only voice in the media is Pellegrini, and he doesn't want to be it, he's simply obliged to be. I don't know if there is anyone at the club who is suitable to take on a similar role to Hoeness, Rummenigge or Sammer. Perhaps we need to appoint one. But having a voice who speaks directly for the club, someone recognisable, comfortable with the media would go a long way to stopping these kind of stories that we are seeing today. It shouldn't all be down to Pellegrini, that's outside of his remit. A hushed press briefing from Vicky Kloss doesn't have quite the same impact as a one delivered directly by Karl-Heinz Rummenigge.

Vicky is not really at the coal face these days, she has far bigger fish to fry. Simon Heggie is the PR...

I think Txiki would be decent. Kiddo is also someone who is a great speaker. Marwood took that step back.

Hopefully, someone like Vinny will take up this kind of role in the years to come.

 

[Shaelumstash]

There's no panic...All i'm saying is that if some scouse **** perks up near my lads they are going to get a smack in the mouth

We have all at one point been in with the home crowd at an away match...it's the risk you take...there will definitely be kick offs tonight if Everton score...100%

Every fan who goes in the wrong end knows the risk they are running. Even in 2016, you'd have to be pretty daft or brave to be celebrating wildly in the home end if you're an away supporter. I'm not saying you, but there are some posters who think there's going to be 5000 Everton in our end and it's going to be pandemonium like the 80s, I just don't see it.

There will no doubt be a few more away fans in home seats than usual. Maybe 150-200.

The vast majority of them will remain quiet if they score. One or two idiots might jump up cheering and will get thrown out after some abuse from angry City fans. One or two might even get a cuff around the ear. But this idea of thousands of them all around the ground and it going off left right and centre, it's just not going to happen.

 

[stonerblue]

fuck me, just looked at the independent match preview and it's all 'tickets tickets tickets'

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The amazing regeneration of parts of East Manchester and the benefit to the community there is barely given a mention and it should be. We're so much more than just a faceless corporation milking it's customers to the nth degree like the rags are but to your casual neutral fan i think we're perceived as "just a shit man united".

Things can't go on like this, either change the personnel or change the tactics or ideally both

If anyone asks the club for an exclusive interview (with a player for example) they are told that the price of that is a positive piece about what we're doing in the community or for East Manchester. Most aren't interested which is why you see so few genuine City exclusives. No PR person, however good, can force a paper to carry a positive story or to withdraw a negative one, unless it's legally actionable. And at the moment, the numbers of clicks for negative City stories are generally higher that those for positive stories. And at most of the red-tops, journalists are judged by the number of clicks they attract so if they've a choice between a story that paints us in a good light that might only get 1m hits or one that paints us in a negative light, which gets 10m hits, which one do you think they'll go for?

How do you suggest we stop that? Because banning people won't stop that, unless you're someone like the rags where you can actually hurt that paper or journalist by banning them. We can't do that and there's no point in thinking that we can.