Everton - Post match thread.

Pep says conversion rate last season was 16%.

I would imagine no-one is happy with that and he has lit a fire under the players about it. However, while it is a little early to start slating players and undermining any confidence they might have, it cannot continue!
 
City_Sean said:
Not throwing in the towel - but it's the same deficiencies that are showing. The finishing issue is bizarre but we're also a disaster defensively
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Very similar to too many games last season where we batter someone and they nick a goal with nigh on the only effort they have all match and then we chase a game which should have been a comfortable win. That was pretty much the worse side EFC have brought to The Etihad since RagHead last wore an EFC shirt.
 
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
Poor sending off of Walker and we seemed galvanised by it and performed better second half

Problem I have with the team at the moment is the need to always make the perfect pass and always having to look a second time to make sure player is available for pass.

Sometimes a quick flick or turn is needed to open up defences which Bernardo did when he came on.

Danilo should have started as Sane is excellent going forward but no awareness when defending.

Sergio seems not to be up to speed at the moment but this will come

Overall happy with the point not happy with the referee again
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Totally agree think the fa should look at Walkers' second yellow as having just watched the replay twice he doesn't even touch him
 
was a bit annoyed to see dominance and wasted chances, and the inevitable goal from a mistake, but you cant fault the workrate.

didnt think it was so bad, though we still have work to do !

Just a nod to Calvert-Lewin who played exceptionally well (aside from his play acting against Walker, he really was excellent).

And i noticed just how much Kompany and Otamendi played balls directly to Aguero and other players on the edge of the box; either a tactical shift or a result of our dominance. I though it made us too high up the pitch and sort of took our midfield out of the equation a bit at times.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
Used to think this near on every game with Pellegrini. How much time had he spent analysing the strengths of the opposition? Had he worked out what might be their game plan, and how was he gonna overcome them. I've followed EFC's matches this season having my own ERO, but I was very surprised at the set up they employed. But then I don't have millions tipping into my account, some of which would be well-earned paying more attention to the opposition plan.
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Hmmm, maybe we siphon off a few quid to sharpen his focus?!

The switch was made because it was felt Kompany would blunt the lone striker better and he was favoring one side of the field. What it did do was allow Ota to bring the ball forward on the open side. No big deal.
 
Who was it that said Pickford had world class distribution? Shocking last night, had that Joe Hart problem of constantly kicking it into touch.

Get Sane back on the left side of a front three. Let him do what he does best with less pressure on defending.

If we're desperate for a HG defender then Bertrand will do nicely. Will cost more than Evans but ticks more than one box.

Otamendi gets a lot of stick, certainly around me in SS3, but I thought he did a good job last night. Notice he has picked up Kolarov's mantle of having a pot-shot when he gets to the edge of the box, except row Z isn't in as much danger now.
 
shemnel said:
And i noticed just how much Kompany and Otamendi played balls directly to Aguero and other players on the edge of the box; either a tactical shift or a result of our dominance. I though it made us too high up the pitch and sort of took our midfield out of the equation a bit at times.
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This is something that started last season and has been used to good effect when the opposition move wider to shut down the lanes for the wingers/full backs. Both Sergio and Jesus come looking for the ball and peel off if it doesn't come. All part of the constant rotation of personnel Pep looks for from his "Total Football" mindset for the players.
 
blue banks said:
Sané was poor.
KDB was great.
Sterling was great when he came on.
B. Silva is clearly not on the same wavelength yet as the other players - he dithered quite a bit instead of being decisive.
Overall I was fairly disappointed as I didn't see much of a progression from last season.

Hoping for more.
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KDB was shocking and constantly losing the ball.

Bernardo Silva looked very good when he came on.

Apart from that you're spot on.
 
Could somebody explain the tactical advantage of dragging everyone back for an opposition corner? We have Sterling, Silva (both of 'em!) Aguero, KdB, who, when yer put one of top of the other might pass the 7ft mark attempting to negate the 6ft 14ins of seemingly every opposition player in our area. Why do we not have Sane, Aguero, or Jesus up on the halfway line? It would drag at least two defenders back, and were we to have two out of the three with a bit of daylight between them . . . . . . !
 
Conversion rate last year for scoring goals was bad. Having seen the first two matches this season we will have the same problem this year as more and more teams will park the bus against us. Maybe the players are aware of this and it is now beginning to have a psychological effect on them, as missing so many chances plays on their minds and may in turn make them reluctanct to shoot in case they miss. Just my opinion. Anyone out there with a psychology degree who maybe thinks the same?
 
Gingers Dad said:
I agree with most of what you said but why are the Rags better prepared for the season than City? Surely that's just bad planning by City
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To an extent yes it is. We started pre-season a week too late if you ask me. However there's an argument that while the rags are firing on all cylinders now they will burn out later down the line without careful squad rotation. Basically they have played two more games than us at the mo which is why I think we have looked a little sluggish as we still get up to match fitness.
 
Dogtanian said:
Having slept on it, we battered them, even with 10 men, we will be more than fine
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I don't mean to sound overly negative and realise I have posted a lot of negative posts. I am of course proud to be a blue and the future is enormously bright. I made a comment a week or two back about the fact that I am not even that bothered about us winning things immediately, I am just enjoying watch us play great football with exciting young talented players.

*However*, with regards to your post, we "battered" nearly every team we played last season too. Think about it. Which games do you recall where we were not clearly the better side? I don't remember many, if any. We were dominant in nearly every game we played, and yet we finished 15 points behind Chelsea.

This season, we've improved at the back enormously, so that should and will help (shame it didn't help last night, but moving on...). But in other respects, what we saw last night was a picture of last season encapsulated in one game.

Bent officials / shockingly bad refereeing? Check
Dominate possession? Check
Create loads of chances? Check
Woeful in front of goal? Check
Done by opposition with one chance, which they actually convert? Check

We've seen it all before. And unless / until something changes, we will see it all over again. We must stop doing the same things, playing the same way, over and over again and hoping it will produce a different outcome: it won't. We have to do different things. I don't know what, because I am not a football manager in any shape or form, but I do know that if we keep making the same mistakes, we can expect the same result by the end of the season. Let's hope Pep realises this and acts accordingly.
 
i wonder if calvert-Lewin and/or Aguero will go through the review for diving to get red cards?
 
Chippy_boy said:
I don't mean to sound overly negative and realise I have posted a lot of negative posts. I am of course proud to be a blue and the future is enormously bright. I made a comment a week or two back about the fact that I am not even that bothered about us winning things immediately, I am just enjoying watch us play great football with exciting young talented players.

*However*, with regards to your post, we "battered" nearly every team we played last season too. Think about it. Which games do you recall where we were not clearly the better side? I don't remember many, if any. We were dominant in nearly every game we played, and yet we finished 15 points behind Chelsea.

This season, we've improved at the back enormously, so that should and will help (shame it didn't help last night, but moving on...). But in other respects, what we saw last night was a picture of last season encapsulated in one game.

Bent officials / shockingly bad refereeing? Check
Dominate possession? Check
Create loads of chances? Check
Woeful in front of goal? Check
Done by opposition with one chance, which they actually convert? Check

We've seen it all before. And unless / until something changes, we will see it all over again. We must stop doing the same things, playing the same way, over and over again and hoping it will produce a different outcome: it won't. We have to do different things. I don't know what, because I am not a football manager in any shape or form, but I do know that if we keep making the same mistakes, we can expect the same result by the end of the season. Let's hope Pep realises this and acts accordingly.
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Excellent post.
So true. I think keeping the ball and letting the opposition form massed ranks to defend is where we go wrong. When we have the ball and the opposition is disorganised we need to attack the opposition more incisively.
 
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