every match joe messes up

A huge mistake indeed.
Even a penalty would have been better

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EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
ifiwasarichfan said:
Form is temporary, class is permenant.

The only keeper in Europe I would replace Joe with is Neur from Bayern. Joe will get through this.

He needs the supporters to do exactly that. Support. Calling for his head isn't going to solve anything.

Post of the month.

Please allow me to make the introductions.........head this is sand.........and sand this is head.........
 
themadinventor said:
EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
ifiwasarichfan said:
Form is temporary, class is permenant.

The only keeper in Europe I would replace Joe with is Neur from Bayern. Joe will get through this.

He needs the supporters to do exactly that. Support. Calling for his head isn't going to solve anything.

Post of the month.

Please allow me to make the introductions.........head this is sand.........and sand this is head.........

Please allow me to make introductions.....

themadinventor meet oldtrafford, oldtrafford meet themadinventor.
 
themadinventor said:
EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
ifiwasarichfan said:
Form is temporary, class is permenant.

The only keeper in Europe I would replace Joe with is Neur from Bayern. Joe will get through this.

He needs the supporters to do exactly that. Support. Calling for his head isn't going to solve anything.

Post of the month.

Please allow me to make the introductions.........head this is sand.........and sand this is head.........
Lol, very good.....and to the quote "Joe will get through this" that's a laugh.... we've been saying this for nearly a year now. How longs it gonna take FFS.
 
fablue said:
A huge mistake indeed.
Even a penalty would have been better

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What on earth does Joe try and do there? It's the first time I've seen it from that angle and it looks like he's gone to head it like he did against Sweden. Deary me.
 
MCFC-Scott said:
fablue said:
A huge mistake indeed.
Even a penalty would have been better

eyl.gif

What on earth does Joe try and do there? It's the first time I've seen it from that angle and it looks like he's gone to head it like he did against Sweden. Deary me.
He even took Nasty out, he could have got back after he headed it over Joe!
 
jma said:
didactic said:
jma said:
The confused and disorganised defense and defensive tactics are playing a part in Hart's lack of good form.

I still think he is the best keeper in the country (no other keeper is under anywhere near as much scrutiny - and that was the case prior to his poor form too) but there is no doubt that he is now in poor form.

But the shambolic organisation at the back means that he is constantly having to make decisions in situations that we shouldn't expect out keeper to be in.

He is nowhere near the best in country lets not allow the blue tints to sway our judgement. He is not even top 5 in current form.

Aaron Ramsey is, by a country mile, the best midfielder in the country on current form. Yet he isn't in the top twenty midfielders in the Premier League. I'm not talking about current form. Of course, Hart isn't in the top five on current form. But it's my opinion, based on watching him and everyone else for the last five years, that he is better than the rest in this league. Especially when playing behind a settled and organised defence, as he has at City until this year and at Birmingham before that. But that's just my opinion.

No he is not Ramsey is not better than Silva, Ozil etc even if he is scoring more.
 
Hart cannot rely on his one strength of shot stopping (he is genuinely world class in this department) to be considered a world class keeper.

He has too many weaknesses -

has poor distribution. And slow distribution. So many times he collects the ball in a crowded penalty area, and sprints to the edge to launch a quick counter. But then stops. After what seems like an eternity of deliberating, by which time the opposition are all back in position, he has no choice but to hoof it and hope. And this isnt for the lack of options to him when he races to the edge of the area, there are always options for him - he either never sees them or lacks the confidence to pick them out so ends up taking the easy fall back option of the hoof upfield.

has poor command of his area when it comes to crosses. For a big guy he should be much better at this, but seems to allow himself to get outmuscled by much smaller forwards, who are doing nothing more than trying to get in his way. When he makes his mind up to go for a cross he should be steamrollering through everyone to get there, defenders and all.

and finally the one that cost us today - his decision making on when to come off his line is atrocious. For the most part it is the opposite of what cost us today. So many times I see a ball played behind our defence but slightly overhit. The defender leaves it/starts to shepherd it back to Hart, but Hart stays put on his line forcing the defender who by this time under pressure from the centre forward has to be rushed into a clearance/boots it out for a throw. Too many times I find myself screaming at Joe to come off your f*king line. These arent for the most part 50-50 decisions. They are clearly the keepers ball to come collect.

These weaknesses haven't just come along this season or last season. Hes always been poor at the above. Our title winning season just didnt throw up too many occasions to highlight them, and the occasions when they did occur he, for the most part, got away with them leaving him to basque in what was a very good season for him, and the rest of us.

The last weakness of when to come/ when not to come for the ball is even more important due to us playing a higher defensive line. It now means we need a keeper who can read the game well, and can act when needed as almost like a sweeper. Lloris at Spurs would be ideal, or the Reina of 5 years ago.
Im not sure Pantillimon would be the solution, but he should be given from now til January to stake a claim
 

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