It doesn't have to prove anything, it simply kills the sponging argument dead.seemedownkippaxstreet said:The crown estate doesn't prove republicans wrong. It's not like the queen manages the portfolio herself.
I'm with Toma.
SWP's back said:No it's fucking bullshit. Where was she born? That's all that matters.Lucky Toma said:BoyBlue_1985 said:Said it before if i called my house mate a turk because his grandad was from Turkey he would quite rightly get the hump so why is it okay to use this sort of thing when we talk about the queen
Personally I couldn't care less where someone is from or their family heritege and only mention a nationality in the very rare instances where it is pertinent.
In this instance - a sovereign ruler of a country - it is. Very much so.
Whereas I'm guessing your mate probably isn't having a nation celebrate his Jubilee this weekend? In which case if I met him I wouldn't give a fuck where he was from, or indeed his father or father before him.
You're no better than someone telling asians to "go back home" (even though they were born in Britain). Why should someone's parents nationality matter?
Just an easy stick to beat them with and well below your usual style of debate.
gordondaviesmoustache said:It is more than faintly amusing that the same people who use terms like 'brown nosing' to describe people who have a positive view of the monarchy are the same people who if they met our owner would forget their inherent disdain for hereditary privilege and would be scrabbling for the best means of accessing his back passage.
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:Gstar-Don't worry mate-I learnt my lesson..and the 2 weeker was reduced from a month on appeal!!!!
Lucky Toma said:gordondaviesmoustache said:It is more than faintly amusing that the same people who use terms like 'brown nosing' to describe people who have a positive view of the monarchy are the same people who if they met our owner would forget their inherent disdain for hereditary privilege and would be scrabbling for the best means of accessing his back passage.
They would not be reverant because of his inherited position though would they GDM. I think it would mainly be due to the fact that he's ploughed untold millions of pounds into a football club they've supported all their lives and made that club league champions.
Has the Queen done this? Has she fuck. Selfish cow.
SWP's back said:It doesn't have to prove anything, it simply kills the sponging argument dead.seemedownkippaxstreet said:The crown estate doesn't prove republicans wrong. It's not like the queen manages the portfolio herself.
I'm with Toma.
Although the ownership of some property can be traced back to Edward the Confessor, the estate as a whole essentially dates from 1066. After the Norman Conquest, all the land belonged to William "in right of The Crown" because he was King. Despite centuries of change in law and custom, the underlying ownership of The Crown still exists and there is always a presumption in favour of The Crown unless it can be proved that the land belongs to someone else.
He has only been able to bestow his largesse upon City as a consequenceof his hereditary power and wealth.Lucky Toma said:gordondaviesmoustache said:It is more than faintly amusing that the same people who use terms like 'brown nosing' to describe people who have a positive view of the monarchy are the same people who if they met our owner would forget their inherent disdain for hereditary privilege and would be scrabbling for the best means of accessing his back passage.
They would not be reverant because of his inherited position though would they GDM. I think it would mainly be due to the fact that he's ploughed untold millions of pounds into a football club they've supported all their lives and made that club league champions.
Has the Queen done this? Has she fuck. Selfish cow.
I support the uprisings of the Arab Spring wherever take place.St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:gordondaviesmoustache said:It is more than faintly amusing that the same people who use terms like 'brown nosing' to describe people who have a positive view of the monarchy are the same people who if they met our owner would forget their inherent disdain for hereditary privilege and would be scrabbling for the best means of accessing his back passage.
I am still awaiting a response from my exact post a few pages back about HRH Sheikh Mansour!! The ironic posts of some people berating our royal family as leeches etc yet our own Sheikh Mansour is a royal!!
SWP's back said:No it's fucking bullshit. Where was she born? That's all that matters.Lucky Toma said:BoyBlue_1985 said:Said it before if i called my house mate a turk because his grandad was from Turkey he would quite rightly get the hump so why is it okay to use this sort of thing when we talk about the queen
Personally I couldn't care less where someone is from or their family heritege and only mention a nationality in the very rare instances where it is pertinent.
In this instance - a sovereign ruler of a country - it is. Very much so.
Whereas I'm guessing your mate probably isn't having a nation celebrate his Jubilee this weekend? In which case if I met him I wouldn't give a fuck where he was from, or indeed his father or father before him.
You're no better than someone telling asians to "go back home" (even though they were born in Britain). Why should someone's parents nationality matter?
Just an easy stick to beat them with and well below your usual style of debate.