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[Petetheblu]

Gary Neville goading City fans and missiles thrown at players....

100/1 Nothing will happen......

As I said earlier I need some bullets to fire on this one - let me have them someone!

To be honest i'd let this one go for now and wait to see what happens to Ade, if that slime ball gets a ban then so does Ade so it's not in OUR interest to see it through. Lets let it lie and pick it up if needed for now.

 

[Montgomery Burns]

Now this is something I would like to do something with, as he has been involved in this kind of thing before.

Is this mentioned anywhere else - can someone look and forward links if possible.

And/or did anyone who went to the game see this and describe in their own words what happened?

Yes, it's being widely publicised.
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Bingo Moonbeams,

I've just e-mailed the FA:

Your recent decision to charge the Manchester City player Emmanuel Adebayor for his goal celebrations has sparked a lively debate in footballing circles, as fans wait to see whether you intend to intervene in other cases where match officials have not issued yellow cards.

I wrote to you last week on behalf of the ‘FA Watch’ campaign, which is published at the following website address:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=140353" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=140353</a>

In view of your decision to charge Mr Adebayor and in the interests of wishing the laws of the game to be applied in an even handed and consistent manner, I refer you to an incident in the closing stages of the Manchester derby match yesterday, when the United non-playing substitute Gary Neville according to media reports:

acted like "a lunatic" as he celebrated Michael Owen's injury time winner for the Red Devils in yesterday's derby thriller at Old Trafford.

Owen scored the clincher in a 4-3 win for United deep into injury time, prompting Neville, a substitute on the day who was warming up along the touchline, to celebrate wildly on the pitch before running over to the corner of the ground housing the City support.

<a class="postlink" href="http://goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2009/09/21/1514248/hughes-manchester-united-defender-neville-was-a-lunatic" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2 ... -a-lunatic</a>

One would normally expect a yellow card to have been issued by the referee in the circumstances so described, but whilst Mr Adebayor was booked and subsequently charged Mr Neville was not. In the interests of wishing the laws of the game to be applied in an even handed and consistent manner I would ask why a yellow card was not issued to Mr Neville in this instance. Perhaps you can enlighten me on this.

More specifically:

(a) Did the referee see the incident?

(b) Did the referee make reference to this incident in his match report?

(c) If he saw the incident but did not deem it warranted a booking please explain why.

(d) If the referee did not see the incident, are you prepared to investigate the circumstances of the incident, using the video evidence available? If not, why not.

This incident is all the more surprising given Mr Neville was dealt by you for a similar matter a few years ago, after a game with Liverpool – he was fined £5,000. Does the previous offence make his actions yesterday all the more serious?

Your comments will be published at the web address given above.

I look forward to hearing from you in due course. (end)

What will they do now?

BTW, I've also amended the wording on the kevin Doyle letter from violent conduct to goal celebrations - mistakes like these are made when you're dog tired - I'm off to bed now.

 

[Montgomery Burns]

As I said earlier I need some bullets to fire on this one - let me have them someone!

To be honest i'd let this one go for now and wait to see what happens to Ade, if that slime ball gets a ban then so does Ade so it's not in OUR interest to see it through. Lets let it lie and pick it up if needed for now.

Sorry I hadn't seen this before reporting Neville.

The FA's fine of Neville set a precedent which should, by rights be followed although it is quite likely it will not.

Any charge on Neville would be heard after Adebayor's and what makes it worse for him is it's a second offence.

I'm really off to bed now!

 

[Petetheblu]

To be honest i'd let this one go for now and wait to see what happens to Ade, if that slime ball gets a ban then so does Ade so it's not in OUR interest to see it through. Lets let it lie and pick it up if needed for now.

Sorry I hadn't seen this before reporting Neville.

The FA's fine of Neville set a precedent which should, by rights be followed although it is quite likely it will not.

Any charge on Neville would be heard after Adebayor's and what makes it worse for him is it's a second offence.

I'm really off to bed now!

Your right I know, but picture this:

David Gill sat there realising that Slime will be banned due to it being his second time, thats give him more rope for Ade. It's almost written what comes next....Ade gets one match ban and Slimeo get's two. I would imagine that Gill will know about any complaints for Slimey's action well before Ade's verdict come into the public domain.

 

[Montgomery Burns]

Sorry I hadn't seen this before reporting Neville.

The FA's fine of Neville set a precedent which should, by rights be followed although it is quite likely it will not.

Any charge on Neville would be heard after Adebayor's and what makes it worse for him is it's a second offence.

I'm really off to bed now!

Your right I know, but picture this:

David Gill sat there realising that Slime will be banned due to it being his second time, thats give him more rope for Ade. It's almost written what comes next....Ade gets one match ban and Slimeo get's two. I would imagine that Gill will know about any complaints for Slimey's action well before Ade's verdict come into the public domain.

Pete,

Don't say that!

The thing is we're committed to highlighting incidents of this type so whatever will be will be - this is a long game not a short one!

Monty

 

[rushts]

Your right I know, but picture this:

David Gill sat there realising that Slime will be banned due to it being his second time, thats give him more rope for Ade. It's almost written what comes next....Ade gets one match ban and Slimeo get's two. I would imagine that Gill will know about any complaints for Slimey's action well before Ade's verdict come into the public domain.

Pete,

Don't say that!

The thing is we're committed to highlighting incidents of this type so whatever will be will be - this is a long game not a short one!

Monty

It is on fergiscums watch anyway.

Keep up the good work Monty.

 

[CBlue]

As I said earlier I need some bullets to fire on this one - let me have them someone!

To be honest i'd let this one go for now and wait to see what happens to Ade, if that slime ball gets a ban then so does Ade so it's not in OUR interest to see it through. Lets let it lie and pick it up if needed for now.

Unfortunately, IMO, this one post undermines everything that this was supposed to be about. You can't cherry pick - you have to do this "warts & all".

 

[City Raider]

This would appear to encompass everything about the origin of FA Watch and might be a powerful image for our home page?

 

[not my fault!]

Just a suggestion, John Stapleton may be able to help our cause and bring it to the attention of the media.
He was going beserk on TV this morning about the added time.
I met him away at Fulham last season and he is a really great bloke and a die hard blue.
As many of you will know he attends most home games and tries to get to as many southern games as he can.
I know he is on Facebook, I'm not, and wondered whether any bluemooners who are already on Facebook would be able to send him details of this thread.
I don't know how Facebook works, so don't know if it is possible.

Someone is going to put me in touch with him there could be a TV appearance in this for someone, although I'm duty bound to remind everyone we do have our own Media Whore (Not My Fault) who I would imagine is salivating at the prospect already. Damn!

I'm a true pro Monty and would do us proud ;0)

 

[Dubai Blue]

I understand your wishes not to take the extra time issue forward Monty but if you just heard Dermot Gallagher on Talksport you might have changed your mind.

The question was put to him - fair enough add on 1 minute for Bellamys celebration but why wasn't a minute also added for Owen's? His reply has me pretty flabbergasted.

I can't quote him word for word but essentially it came down to when the goal was scored. Bellamys in normal time therefore time added on, Owen's in injury time - can't add any more time on!!!

WTF! How can this be right? Basically if Bellamy had scored 5 seconds later (ie in injury time) the ref would have only played 4 minutes. This is a farce.

Just to clarify this point that keeps coming up about time added after Owen's goal:

When Bellamy scored, there were (rightly or wrongly) 4 minutes, 6 seconds remaining. His celebration took up 55 seconds of that remaining time and was therefore added on (again, rightly or wrongly).

When Owen scored, there were 16 seconds remaining (according to the referee). Even if Owen's celebration had lasted 20 minutes, it would still only have wasted 16 seconds of the game, therefore only 16 further seconds were played. Why add on 30 seconds or however long when the game only has 16 seconds left to run?

If that's what Gallagher was saying, then he was right.

The real injustice is why there were even 4 minutes to start with and why the referee felt it necessary to add on Bellamy's full 55 seconds when the guideline for celebrations is 30 seconds.