Fabian Delph

[abu13]

i would prefer Whilshire over Delph from a quality point of view but at least Delph is likely to be when called on.

 

[feedthegoat]

No that's a fair point,however it's more than a few hundred quid to bring the price down that much believe me

On a normal market sure but a transfer market can even be altered by a newspaper report. Try getting a couple of hundred quid on a transfer market bet with a price of say 6/4 , I guarantee you will be knocked back.

 

[Proy]

I've rated Delph for some time. Question marks over whether he has the ability to play at the very top level, but he's progressed well this year and not only has he established himself as a full international he has played very well in the games I've seen him.

He had a raw potential at Leeds and a mid table prem team were always going to the risk before the establishment did, what he had to do in that time is prove himself and he is doing that now. Only a matter of time before a bigger club comes calling and I wouldn't mind in the slightest if that club was us. We could do much worse.

 

[sam-caddick]

He looks out of his depth for England so how will he look for City?

 

[supercity88]

I've rated Delph for some time. Question marks over whether he has the ability to play at the very top level, but he's progressed well this year and not only has he established himself as a full international he has played very well in the games I've seen him.

He had a raw potential at Leeds and a mid table prem team were always going to the risk before the establishment did, what he had to do in that time is prove himself and he is doing that now. Only a matter of time before a bigger club comes calling and I wouldn't mind in the slightest if that club was us. We could do much worse.

If you watch him closely you'll see that he doesn't actually do anything... He's on the pitch and he runs around a lot. Sometimes he'll run forwards with the ball, sometimes right across the pitch but generally he contributes very little. He's very Bambi-esque on the ball, the sort of player that scares me when he's in possession as he doesn't seem to know what he's going to do and gets into tight spots.

If Delph chooses to sign for City he's an idiot. He's in the squad for England at the Euro's as we are now. He's not getting enough game time with City to stay in that squad. Generally that role in midfield can be strengthened without too much of an outlay. There are better options. I see him as a Fernandinho style player with no where near as much ability.

 

[Dr Jacoby]

The new and slightly improved Nigel Reo-Coker.

 

[Lomas has a lob on]

Were we not in for him when he left Leeds for Villa!?
I think he said a few things about not joining a club just for the money at the time too.

 

[Proy]

If you watch him closely you'll see that he doesn't actually do anything... He's on the pitch and he runs around a lot. Sometimes he'll run forwards with the ball, sometimes right across the pitch but generally he contributes very little. He's very Bambi-esque on the ball, the sort of player that scares me when he's in possession as he doesn't seem to know what he's going to do and gets into tight spots.

If Delph chooses to sign for City he's an idiot. He's in the squad for England at the Euro's as we are now. He's not getting enough game time with City to stay in that squad. Generally that role in midfield can be strengthened without too much of an outlay. There are better options. I see him as a Fernandinho style player with no where near as much ability.

That's fair enough. I see a different player. I thought him and Wilshire were excellent against Slovenia. I don't see him as a starter, he is a squad player in the same sense as Milner was. There are better first choice options but as a HG squad player we could do much worse, in my opinion.

 

[sam-caddick]

That's fair enough. I see a different player. I thought him and Wilshire were excellent against Slovenia. I don't see him as a starter, he is a squad player in the same sense as Milner was. There are better first choice options but as a HG squad player we could do much worse, in my opinion.

A HG squad player that will likely cost City 25m+

 

[supercity88]

That's fair enough. I see a different player. I thought him and Wilshire were excellent against Slovenia. I don't see him as a starter, he is a squad player in the same sense as Milner was. There are better first choice options but as a HG squad player we could do much worse, in my opinion.

Slovenia aren't an opposition to measure a player on. I'd expect England to perform well against them. In the FA Cup final Delph was on the ball a lot and got into good positions, Villa didn't make the most of those positions and Delph was as guilty as anyone for running out of ideas when he got into the final third. We've got to look beyond this "solid squad player" idea and also looking at the home grown quota as something we've got to fill anyway we can. Rightly the club have been linked to Sterling and Wilshere who are two promising young English players and worth the investment. I'd sooner see us use our academy players to fill any quota, than waste money on bang average English players from elsewhere that will cost a premium. That way we are promoting from within the club and can either a) uncover a real talent or b) increase the value of an academy player and recoup money.

 

[Silva_Spell]

Darren Andert.. I mean Jack Wilshere?
Delph?

Verratti should be the one we spunk a huge load on if Pogba ends up at Barca/Real.
I'd rather promote Kean Bryan to backup duties if it meant getting in a special talent like Verratti rather than some overpriced and/or injuryprone English players.

Sterlling, fine, even at the crazy price, he's 20 and brings something completely new to our team and he's not always injured but he's the only English player I'd be looking at for the 1st team squad, unless you can get Stones/Barkley at a really good price (which is about as likely as Brendan Bodgers never saying 'technician' again)

 

[Proy]

Slovenia aren't an opposition to measure a player on. I'd expect England to perform well against them. In the FA Cup final Delph was on the ball a lot and got into good positions, Villa didn't make the most of those positions and Delph was as guilty as anyone for running out of ideas when he got into the final third. We've got to look beyond this "solid squad player" idea and also looking at the home grown quota as something we've got to fill anyway we can. Rightly the club have been linked to Sterling and Wilshere who are two promising young English players and worth the investment. I'd sooner see us use our academy players to fill any quota, than waste money on bang average English players from elsewhere that will cost a premium. That way we are promoting from within the club and can either a) uncover a real talent or b) increase the value of an academy player and recoup money.

I think every squad needs that player that is willing to sit on the bench every now and then and be a part of a squad. That is a certain type of mentality and one that is hard to find. I'm not suggesting that Delph would do this, but my general feeling is that those types of players will not be marquee signings, because those types of players want to start each week. I think Milner, in his time here,was a great example of this. A decent footballer that was willing to work hard, but understood where he was at. The HG part is an advantage not a necessity that I think we have to force ourselves to fill, I just believe if we are going to do that then there are some decent British players that can satisfy 2 criteria. Yes we have an academy that should soon start producing and British players now command silly fees. Fees that can be avoided by using our academy. Now that's a bit of a contradiction, I know, but my initial point was that Delph isn't a bad footballer, good enough in my option, for what I've just explained. I think there is sometimes, a bit of a mentality block around the fans when it comes to assessing decent young English talent.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

17+4+4 for CL
17+8 for PL.
The PL quota would get him regular games, but the CL will be a problem if he does join us. We have no chance of exceeding 21 senior players for Europe so the calibre of the 4 HG players has to be high, or at least high enough to do a back up job to our 17 overseas players. Hart fits the bill and Clichy just about does too, and if we can land two other HG players of quality then we can safely consign Wright to the PL list only as the CL rules tell us that only two of our main squad have to be keepers. So that leaves us with the task of fill two spots we might consider to have European standards in their game. Sterling and Wilshere would, for me, fit that bill but I would also think that Delph would not unless he joins up in expectation of being included in the PL squad only and with our top brass being obsessed with European domination, there's no way that Delph could be in any part of that.

 

[Pam]

This Delph rumour needs to go away.

 

[Man city fan 72]

Ha ha, I'm with you Pam on this one. How have we got into this mess when we're seeming absolutely desperate for homegrown players.

 

[supercity88]

I think every squad needs that player that is willing to sit on the bench every now and then and be a part of a squad. That is a certain type of mentality and one that is hard to find. I'm not suggesting that Delph would do this, but my general feeling is that those types of players will not be marquee signings, because those types of players want to start each week. I think Milner, in his time here,was a great example of this. A decent footballer that was willing to work hard, but understood where he was at. The HG part is an advantage not a necessity that I think we have to force ourselves to fill, I just believe if we are going to do that then there are some decent British players that can satisfy 2 criteria. Yes we have an academy that should soon start producing and British players now command silly fees. Fees that can be avoided by using our academy. Now that's a bit of a contradiction, I know, but my initial point was that Delph isn't a bad footballer, good enough in my option, for what I've just explained. I think there is sometimes, a bit of a mentality block around the fans when it comes to assessing decent young English talent.

That's just not true. Milner wanted game time and he worked hard and was rewarded. In the big games he regularly played. He left to get a stronger guarantee of first team football and another pay day. Delph will not come to City and watch England next summer sat at home. He will also realise there's little chance of him playing week in week out at our club. We'd be much better at signing a home grown keeper if all we want is squad filler. I don't care where the player is from, the club will decline if we buy players who can "do a job" but don't mind too much sitting on the bench. There aren't many English players that are good enough. The level of talent seems to be improving at younger age groups but currently I'd only consider Clyne, Sterling and Wilshere for City.

 

[CityFan94]

£25 million for Delph would be one of our worst ever deals.

 

[Daz_Blue]

The possible signing of Delph is what influenced Pogba to consider joining us........he was torn into playing alongside Messi or learning his trade from Fabian....and the lure was to great to turn down I hope ....

 

[sir baconface]

This. HG additions should be either ones who strengthen us (e.g. Sterling) or who have big potential (e.g. Fulham lad). Otherwise let's cover with our own lads and either develop them or sell them on.

 

[Happy Feet]

THIS IS THE ONE WE NEED