FC United - Oral Hearing - judge rejects appeal (p 82)

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cheekybids said:
Can I ask a serious question, what is the purpose of fc utd?

Apologies.... couldn't resist ;)
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cheekybids said:
Can I ask a serious question, what is the purpose of fc utd? I know about the protest about the glazers but at what point do you decide if you've won?

If the Glazers leave, do you close the club?
or are the ambitions of the club to progress as high as possible in the league and one day become rivals of utd? If that's the case who do you support?

There's lots of fans who get tired of the top leagues and then go and watch, flixton, altrincham, stockport, bury, why create a new club?

I got no aswer to a genuine queson so tried to o some research.

Who Are We?

FC United of Manchester is a community football club owned and democratically run by its members. Its corporate structure is a Community Benefit Society and membership is open to all, with everyone an equal co-owner, holding one voting share in the club.



The club was founded in 2005 by Manchester United fans following Malcolm Glazer's takeover of the Old Trafford club. This was seen as a catalyst and final straw by some, but it was not the sole reason for the formation of FC United. The club is semi-professional and currently plays in the Northern Premier League. The club regularly attracts crowds of more than 2,000 - several times the league average - and boasts many on and off the field achievements including three consecutive promotions and a number of trophies.


So if what happens if Glazers sell out, do you wind the club up or is it too much of a money maker? Who would you support if FC UTD played the rags in the FA cup?

As fans of club that let us down so often you can see why we look at you as turn coats where as we continued to supprt the team and pressurise the establishment from within or outside the front gates of maine road.
 
Was just reading an article on FC which was titled £10k-£20k Deficit and this was a response from Andy Walsh in which they have estimated the crowd attendances they require for the remainder of their home games and i have highlighted in red the actual attendances so far :


situation could have been a lot worse if it was not for the efforts of a lot of people behind the scenes and plans being in place to address any negative impact on agreed budgets. This contingency planning goes on each season but when the winter is as bad as it has been the task is that much more challenging.

The winter and consequential postponements is a major factor as is the poor ongoing economic climate.

We have to be creative and work hard to bring in the revenue we need to run the club and address any shortfalls against budgets when we get hit with such difficulties. We have a limited number of ways to raise revenue especially lodging at Bury, plus we want to keep prices as low as possible on the gate, merchandise, price of beer in the bars etc and we want to avoid 'outright commercialism'.

Games switched to a midweek attract a smaller crowd, games being squashed into a constricted timeframe e.g. three home on the bounce or a run of two games a week and not spread out all have an impact on a number of areas, merchandise sales, pound for the ground, programme sales, sponsorship etc. Individuals only have a limited amount of money to spend from their pay packet and there are competing calls on family finances.

The poor weather has a hidden impact as it also hits our other fundraising events with people more reluctant to come out when the weather is bad and we cannot just postpone events until the weather improves as this again loads the events into an already packed part of the year.

We have constrained costs and the various teams of volunteers on sponsorship, match promotion, web team, programmes, merchandise, PFTG, events etc have all worked hard to address the problem.

We are not alone in suffering these issues every club we talk to is experiencing the same problems with many clubs at our level reporting crowds down by up to 20%.

With no rich backer and co-ownership our response has to be a collective one. As a point of interest a drop of 100 off the average attendance across a season will roughly equate to £10k - £12k loss against budgets and we are running approximately 100 behind our average of the last few seasons. Whilst it is a tough challenge to face last Sunday showed what a focused promotional campaign can achieve we set a target gate of 2,000 tomorrow's match we are aiming for 2,300. There will be some ebb and flows but these are our targets for the remainder of the season:

FEB
Sat 23 Ilkeston 2200 (actual 1,929)
MARCH
Sun 3 N Ferriby 1900 (actual 2,465)
Sat 9 Chorley 2300 ( actual 2031 )
Tues 19 Buxton 1700 (Stalybridge) ( 1501 )
Sat 23 Blyth Sp 2200 ( actual 1730 )
APRIL
Mon 1 Stocksbridge 2200 ( actual 1659 )
Sat 6 Witton 2200 ( actual 1741 )
Tues 9 Kendal 1830
Tues 16 Frickley 1830
Sat 20 Worksop 2900
Tues 23 Ashton 2000

Hit these and we will go a long way to addressing the budget position.

Only achieved or bettered one so far !!!
 
I hope we all noticed that mid Cheshire's finest beat FCUM in their own backyard yesterday.
 
bluemanc said:
"we want to avoid 'outright commercialism".
As opposed to what?they'll be changing dates for TV for the money next,forgot they did that.

they chase the money, like all clubs (with the possible exception of corinthian-casuals and queens park).

they wrap it up in community and co-operative rhetoric and a bit of window dressing, but they are just like all clubs in the way they operate.
 
Tueartsoverhead kick said:
Was just reading an article on FC which was titled £10k-£20k Deficit and this was a response from Andy Walsh in which they have estimated the crowd attendances they require for the remainder of their home games and i have highlighted in red the actual attendances so far :


situation could have been a lot worse if it was not for the efforts of a lot of people behind the scenes and plans being in place to address any negative impact on agreed budgets. This contingency planning goes on each season but when the winter is as bad as it has been the task is that much more challenging.

The winter and consequential postponements is a major factor as is the poor ongoing economic climate.

We have to be creative and work hard to bring in the revenue we need to run the club and address any shortfalls against budgets when we get hit with such difficulties. We have a limited number of ways to raise revenue especially lodging at Bury, plus we want to keep prices as low as possible on the gate, merchandise, price of beer in the bars etc and we want to avoid 'outright commercialism'.

Games switched to a midweek attract a smaller crowd, games being squashed into a constricted timeframe e.g. three home on the bounce or a run of two games a week and not spread out all have an impact on a number of areas, merchandise sales, pound for the ground, programme sales, sponsorship etc. Individuals only have a limited amount of money to spend from their pay packet and there are competing calls on family finances.

The poor weather has a hidden impact as it also hits our other fundraising events with people more reluctant to come out when the weather is bad and we cannot just postpone events until the weather improves as this again loads the events into an already packed part of the year.

We have constrained costs and the various teams of volunteers on sponsorship, match promotion, web team, programmes, merchandise, PFTG, events etc have all worked hard to address the problem.

We are not alone in suffering these issues every club we talk to is experiencing the same problems with many clubs at our level reporting crowds down by up to 20%.

With no rich backer and co-ownership our response has to be a collective one. As a point of interest a drop of 100 off the average attendance across a season will roughly equate to £10k - £12k loss against budgets and we are running approximately 100 behind our average of the last few seasons. Whilst it is a tough challenge to face last Sunday showed what a focused promotional campaign can achieve we set a target gate of 2,000 tomorrow's match we are aiming for 2,300. There will be some ebb and flows but these are our targets for the remainder of the season:

FEB
Sat 23 Ilkeston 2200 (actual 1,929)
MARCH
Sun 3 N Ferriby 1900 (actual 2,465)
Sat 9 Chorley 2300 ( actual 2031 )
Tues 19 Buxton 1700 (Stalybridge) ( 1501 )
Sat 23 Blyth Sp 2200 ( actual 1730 )
APRIL
Mon 1 Stocksbridge 2200 ( actual 1659 )
Sat 6 Witton 2200 ( actual 1741 )
Tues 9 Kendal 1830
Tues 16 Frickley 1830
Sat 20 Worksop 2900
Tues 23 Ashton 2000

Hit these and we will go a long way to addressing the budget position.

Only achieved or bettered one so far !!!

When Andy Walsh states "Situation could have been a lot worse if it was not for the efforts of a lot of people behind the scenes and plans being in place to address any negative impact on agreed budgets". Does he mean the endless grants they get from Manchester City Council for their so called community work? Where exactly would they be without this leg up from the council. They get grants to coach and also charge those they coach, so much for community spirit. It's a pity the council don't invest this grant money on essential services for the benefit of the whole community.
 
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