FC United Thread

What about all the grants you've been given, are you going to pay them back?
No, you don't pay grants back, that's why they are called grants and not loans.
That's assuming you pay it off before going bust!
But it's more than the loan that you've received tax payers funding for.... and you know that.
Haha yes quite but in the scenario where we go bust before paying it off then the council get a £6.5 million stadium so tax payers do alright in that scenario ;)
And yes it is the club received a £550k grant from the council as part of the initial ground funding, and for that a £6.5 million ground was built that hosts countless community initiatives so not a bad investment for them. I don't know why this is brought up so frequently especially on here. The now renamed City of Manchester Stadium cost tax payers a fair bit more than £550k when that was built.
 
No, you don't pay grants back, that's why they are called grants and not loans.

Haha yes quite but in the scenario where we go bust before paying it off then the council get a £6.5 million stadium so tax payers do alright in that scenario ;)
And yes it is the club received a £550k grant from the council as part of the initial ground funding, and for that a £6.5 million ground was built that hosts countless community initiatives so not a bad investment for them. I don't know why this is brought up so frequently especially on here. The now renamed City of Manchester Stadium cost tax payers a fair bit more than £550k when that was built.
What do you think the council can do with a 6.5m white elephant, er, I mean football stadium that would do council tax payers alright?

As for City. Most of the money was lottery funded. The council did indeed stump up money - was it 40m or 50m?
City have been paying back initially 2m a year and I think that is now 3-4m a season as well as a cut in the naming rights funding. With over a 100 year lease, now that is a fantastic deal for council tax payers. Contrast that to Moston where the Rag Socks pay 1 quid a year rent for 125 years....
 
What do you think the council can do with a 6.5m white elephant, er, I mean football stadium that would do council tax payers alright?

As for City. Most of the money was lottery funded. The council did indeed stump up money - was it 40m or 50m?
City have been paying back initially 2m a year and I think that is now 3-4m a season as well as a cut in the naming rights funding. With over a 100 year lease, now that is a fantastic deal for council tax payers. Contrast that to Moston where the Rag Socks pay 1 quid a year rent for 125 years....

I think if the club bought the ground, all the money goes to Sport England and the Lottery, and not the council.
If City rent the ground, the Council get their 3-4+M a year, depending on ticket sales.
 
I think if the club bought the ground, all the money goes to Sport England and the Lottery, and not the council.
If City rent the ground, the Council get their 3-4+M a year, depending on ticket sales.
Yep, the whole point of not buying the ground was to avoid fucking the taxpayer over alá Soccer Club United of Manchester.
 
Turns out the guy who posted that got his dates mixed up there was no double booking. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good bit of FCUM bashing though.

We don't have a 225 page thread about you on our forum though ;) I'm sure singing at a football match baffles you but don't understand your lack of understanding, do you sing United songs at your away games?

We do.

However, we don’t sing about SCUM, funnily enough.
 
I think if the club bought the ground, all the money goes to Sport England and the Lottery, and not the council.
If City rent the ground, the Council get their 3-4+M a year, depending on ticket sales.
That was the original plan in 2003. The club lease the ground rather than rent it (not sure what the difference is, someone will explain!) but after the naming rights was announced, I think the council now get a set figure each season / or game regardless of attendances. I presume wrongly or rightly they get a cut of the concerts too????
 
That was the original plan in 2003. The club lease the ground rather than rent it (not sure what the difference is, someone will explain!) but after the naming rights was announced, I think the council now get a set figure each season / or game regardless of attendances. I presume wrongly or rightly they get a cut of the concerts too????
Rent is month to month, lease is 3 months and over. What we have is a finance/operating lease which covers the expected useful life of the asset.
 
Ive met a fair few fscum fans and every single one of them are still ‘massive’ rag fans, deluded ****s every single one of them
 
That was the original plan in 2003. The club lease the ground rather than rent it (not sure what the difference is, someone will explain!) but after the naming rights was announced, I think the council now get a set figure each season / or game regardless of attendances. I presume wrongly or rightly they get a cut of the concerts too????

Fair enough.
I assume the effect of the club buying the ground would still be the same, so the overall situation is much the same - the council make money from not selling. Everyone's happy!
 
I live about 2.5 miles from their ground and the other day I went out to the car and could clearly hear them chanting the “why don’t City fuck off home” song

The wind must have been in the right direction because never heard anything before
 
I live about 2.5 miles from their ground and the other day I went out to the car and could clearly hear them chanting the “why don’t City fuck off home” song

The wind must have been in the right direction because never heard anything before
They were playing the Crass of 92 FC, so I imagine both sets of fans were joining in.....
 
Publicly funded then.
Less than 10% aye, again, nobody is saying any different.
What do you think the council can do with a 6.5m white elephant, er, I mean football stadium that would do council tax payers alright?
Sell it? They'd only need a million to break even I'm sure that'd be easy enough.
As for City. Most of the money was lottery funded. The council did indeed stump up money - was it 40m or 50m?
City have been paying back initially 2m a year and I think that is now 3-4m a season as well as a cut in the naming rights funding. With over a 100 year lease, now that is a fantastic deal for council tax payers. Contrast that to Moston where the Rag Socks pay 1 quid a year rent for 125 years....
It is in the long term yeah but initially it wasn't. Once our loan is paid back in full with interest the full amount paid back won't be far off the loan and grant amounts combined, and to show for it a relatively deprived area of Manchester will have a multi million pound facility whose occupants are duty bound (by both themselves and the terms of their lease) to provide a plethora of community initiatives whilst creating jobs in the local area (already happened). All in all money well invested providing you don't hold a ridiculous grudge against anything football related with United in it's name ;)
Yep, the whole point of not buying the ground was to avoid fucking the taxpayer over alá Soccer Club United of Manchester.
See above, great business for the council and ergo the taxpayer.
We do.

However, we don’t sing about SCUM, funnily enough.
What you sing is up to you, what we sing is up to us. Maybe concentrate on your own atmosphere issues before slating a club who generate a good one for the entire game both home and away ;)
Ive met a fair few fscum fans and every single one of them are still ‘massive’ rag fans, deluded ****s every single one of them
Cool story, I've met a fair few city fans and they all kill innocent puppies, bastards!
with man city running away with the football in the big boys league maybe the green and gold fans will flood back to moston and sing about little old city and leeds and liverpool
Back to Moston? Were they ever at Broadhurst Park in the first place? Don't recall that, don't even recall Broadhurst Park existing when all that was going on.
I live about 2.5 miles from their ground and the other day I went out to the car and could clearly hear them chanting the “why don’t City fuck off home” song

The wind must have been in the right direction because never heard anything before
You can hear us from 2.5 miles away? Fucking hell we're good :)
They were playing the Crass of 92 FC, so I imagine both sets of fans were joining in.....
Can't say I've ever heard Salford City fans sing anything other than "Salford! Salford! Salford!"
and wearing half and half Crass of 92 / Moston Rag Socks scarves
That kinda thing wouldn't be seen dead at Broadhurst Park, you see plenty of that stuff at Old Trafford and the Etihad though ;) Besides Salford have a lot more in common with you guys than they do FCUM, pretty much polar opposites.
 
I walked in a small city centre pub the other day. I had my City hat on. I thought I had walked into the Strangeways 'C' wing Christmas 'Do'. If that doesn't describe the customers then how about a 1970's hooligan firm, white, shaved heads, not a football scarf in sight. The comments came flying over, strange how you can spot a small badge on a hat from 25 yards when you want to and they refused to move at the bar so that I could get served. Ah well, I got served and went and sat with my mates. I later asked the barman who they were and the answer is the one that you know, this is after all a thread about lowlife.
 

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