Fergie (merged)

Re: Fergie

sjk2008 said:
baildon blue said:
Fergie needs to have touchline ban for 5 matches after Sunday.No way should he get away with this.He was saying the linesman was bent which is bang out order.

Should Allardyce get a 5 match touchline ban aswell then for insisting the officials were bent?


Works for me.

Although the two sets of comments were totally different, Allardyce was talking generalities rather than singling out one person and saying he's biased.

I also think that whatever punishment Ferguson gets, his history has to be taken into account.

So for me it's life.
 
Re: Fergie

moomba said:
sjk2008 said:
baildon blue said:
Fergie needs to have touchline ban for 5 matches after Sunday.No way should he get away with this.He was saying the linesman was bent which is bang out order.

Should Allardyce get a 5 match touchline ban aswell then for insisting the officials were bent?


Works for me.

Although the two sets of comments were totally different, Allardyce was talking generalities rather than singling out one person and saying he's biased.

I also think that whatever punishment Ferguson gets, his history has to be taken into account.

So for me it's life.
Brilliant i was being too kind to Fergie saying lets give him a 5 match ban
 
Re: Fergie

moomba said:
sjk2008 said:
baildon blue said:
Fergie needs to have touchline ban for 5 matches after Sunday.No way should he get away with this.He was saying the linesman was bent which is bang out order.

Should Allardyce get a 5 match touchline ban aswell then for insisting the officials were bent?


Works for me.

Although the two sets of comments were totally different, Allardyce was talking generalities rather than singling out one person and saying he's biased.

I also think that whatever punishment Ferguson gets, his history has to be taken into account.

So for me it's life.

Yeah, I agree. I wasn't sure whether this was just a "Punish Fergie 'cause it's Fergie but let Allardyce off" claim, that's all.
 
Re: Fergie

I thought The Mirrors McDonnell was part of the clique? Have the media finally had enough of his antics?

By David McDonnell | 22 Jan 2013 14:15
Lost amid the buckshot of criticism aimed at David De Gea, for his late culpability in Manchester United's 1-1 draw at Tottenham, was another blame game masterclass from Sir Alex Ferguson.

Ferguson has turned the diversionary tactic into an art form over the years, highlighting a particular issue to deflect attention from sensitive issues, but this season the United boss has taken the approach to a whole new level.

There is no doubt Ferguson was genuinely aggrieved with referee's assistant Simon Beck, for not awarding what looked to be a clear second-half penalty on Sunday, when Wayne Rooney was tripped by Spurs defender Steven Caulker.

But, after De Gea's feeble punch allowed Tottenham to snatch an equaliser in added time at White Hart Lane, Ferguson's diatribe against Lock was in part designed to take the heat off his bealaguered young Spanish goalkeeper, leaving the United boss to do so in private.

Ferguson, more than anyone, knows De Gea's performances of late have not been up to the standard required of a United goalkeeper. De Gea made several crucial saves against Spurs, but such heroics were swiftly forgotten following his costly late blunder.

Moreover, it's not as if Sunday's gaffe was an isolated incident. De Gea's propensity to palm the ball into the path of opponents, rather than to safety, has cost United goals against Swansea, Newcastle and Liverpool this season, an area of real concern that must be addressed.

But Ferguson's criticism of Beck, for which he can expect to face an FA misconduct charge, continued this season's theme of the United boss looking to apportion blame anywhere else but at the door of his players when they lose or perform poorly.

Ferguson has banned newspaper reporters this season for correctly revealing injury stories concerning his players, blaming them for harming United's competitive advantage by simply doing their job properly.

Sky were also banned from Ferguson's weekly Friday media briefing, although were allowed back in last week having served their time, for their perceived excessive coverage of the United manager's Boxing Day touchline spat with referee Mike Dean.

The blame game approach was there on the opening round of Premier League fixtures this season, following United's 1-0 defeat at Everton where Ferguson implied ref Andre Marriner had been swayed by the home fans.

"You have the crowd influencing the referee all the time here," said Ferguson, whose embittered post-match remarks ensured he remained just the right side of the FA's disciplinary regulations.

Six weeks later, still brooding in the immediate aftermath of United's 3-2 home defeat to Tottenham, Ferguson lambasted the perceived failure of ref Chris Foy to add on enough time once 90 minutes had been played.

"They gave us four minutes [of added time]," said Ferguson. "That's an insult to the game and it's a flaw [of the game] that the referee is still responsible for time-keeping."

But perhaps Ferguson's finest example of his attention-switching skills came after United's 1-1 draw against Swansea two days before Christmas, when Ashley Williams came under fire for kicking the ball at Robin van Persie's head at point-blank range.

"He could have killed the lad," said Ferguson. "He [van Persie] could have had a broken neck. He's lucky to be alive. What that lad did today was the most horrendous act I've seen for many, many years. He [Williams] should be banned by the FA."

Three days later, Ferguson continued his blame-game antics with a touchline broadside at ref Dean, his assistants and the fourth official, for allowing a Jonny Evans own goal to stand.

Astonishingly, given Ferguson strode on to the pitch to confront Dean and the clear invective in his prolonged attack, the United boss once againt evaded disciplinary action.

Which brings us to Sunday's post-match rant, when Ferguson identified ref's assistant Beck as his latest target for blame. "He never gave us a thing all day," moaned Ferguson. "He never saw the penalty kick on Wayne. He had a shocking game."

Ferguson's reluctance to chastise his players in public is as understandable as it is effective, the principle part of his peerless managerial approach that has yielded more trophies and success than any other British manager.

But the tactic has been particularly transparent and tiresome this season and looks to have finally caught up with him with his misconduct charge, which is likely to see him fined and banned from the touchline.

One wonders, if he is found guilty and punished by the FA, who Fergie will blame for that?
 
Re: Fergie

Thenumber1blue said:
padotido said:
Best football manager ever
Not as good as Brian Clough

Correct.

To quote the great man himself, "I might not be the greatest football manager, but I reckon I'm in the top one!"

We were talking about him at work yesterday.

He took two provincial clubs to the league title and won the European Cup with a team of rejects.

Brian Clough is the greatest football manager ever, IMHO.
 
Re: Fergie

Vienna_70 said:
Thenumber1blue said:
padotido said:
Best football manager ever
Not as good as Brian Clough

Correct.

To quote the great man himself, "I might not be the greatest football manager, but I reckon I'm in the top one!"

We were talking about him at work yesterday.

He took two provincial clubs to the league title and won the European Cup with a team of rejects.

Brian Clough is the greatest football manager ever, IMHO.

Brilliant.
 
Re: Fergie

Vienna_70 said:
Thenumber1blue said:
padotido said:
Best football manager ever
Not as good as Brian Clough

Correct.

To quote the great man himself, "I might not be the greatest football manager, but I reckon I'm in the top one!"

We were talking about him at work yesterday.

He took two provincial clubs to the league title and won the European Cup with a team of rejects.

Brian Clough is the greatest football manager ever, IMHO.
He'd tell the current rag mafia,you can throw all them trophies away.
 
Re: Fergie

Thenumber1blue said:
Vienna_70 said:
Thenumber1blue said:
Not as good as Brian Clough

Correct.

To quote the great man himself, "I might not be the greatest football manager, but I reckon I'm in the top one!"

We were talking about him at work yesterday.

He took two provincial clubs to the league title and won the European Cup with a team of rejects.

Brian Clough is the greatest football manager ever, IMHO.
He'd tell the current rag mafia,you can throw all them trophies away.

It was scandalous that Clough, Shankley, Paisley, Stein and even Barton weren't awarded knighthoods for winning the European Cup, and yet in Busby and the piss-can's cases, it seems as if they couldn't make them Sirs quickly enough.
 
Re: Fergie

Sky were also banned from Ferguson's weekly Friday media briefing, although were allowed back in last week having served their time, for their perceived excessive coverage of the United manager's Boxing Day touchline spat with referee Mike Dean.

Why dont these media groups just grow a pair and say right if we are banned there will be zero press from us on Utd. Lets see how long before Sky dont show thier games, BBC refuse to show highlights and the media printing stories from Utd before someone at utd gets panicky about the lack of coverage to "thier billions" of fans worldwide.
If thats correct with Sky then why were the big hitters in charge of Sky not reminding Utd who pays for the TV money they receive instead of bending over.

Its the same as the BBC. When he refused to talk to them for years, personally i would have pulled them from MOTD as they broke the contract. Instead you had BBC giving FA cup fixtures live to Utd.

All it takes is 1 media establishment to stand up to him and Utd and the rest will follow but none of them it seems have any backbone or balls. I understand that the majority of armchair fans follow Utd and it may hurt them a little but my god, what are the people in charge of these companies doing in letting Utd get away with it, its no way to run a business.
 
Re: Fergie

hertsblue said:
Sky were also banned from Ferguson's weekly Friday media briefing, although were allowed back in last week having served their time, for their perceived excessive coverage of the United manager's Boxing Day touchline spat with referee Mike Dean.

Why dont these media groups just grow a pair and say right if we are banned there will be zero press from us on Utd. Lets see how long before Sky dont show thier games, BBC refuse to show highlights and the media printing stories from Utd before someone at utd gets panicky about the lack of coverage to "thier billions" of fans worldwide.
If thats correct with Sky then why were the big hitters in charge of Sky not reminding Utd who pays for the TV money they receive instead of bending over.

Its the same as the BBC. When he refused to talk to them for years, personally i would have pulled them from MOTD as they broke the contract. Instead you had BBC giving FA cup fixtures live to Utd.

All it takes is 1 media establishment to stand up to him and Utd and the rest will follow but none of them it seems have any backbone or balls. I understand that the majority of armchair fans follow Utd and it may hurt them a little but my god, what are the people in charge of these companies doing in letting Utd get away with it, its no way to run a business.

Well sky have grown a pair they bought scum tv
 

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