Fernandinho completed, OS confirmed

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squirtyflower said:
morleyswife said:
squirtyflower said:
depending on which media outlet you believe the transfer could have been anything from £20 million to 40 million euros

hence his question


So if it is 40 million?
tbh
i don't know what to believe
i have a (un)healthy sceptism regarding most of the media circus surrounding football clubs, particularly throughout the transfer window

You have not answered my question (tut tut) I will retort. So what if it is 40 mill euro signing on fee?(up front)
 
Just watched the video on the OS ... have one query: is sharon still club photographer? no sign of her here, some other lass on snapping duty.
 
I too think if the reported 34m is correct then it's far too much money we've paid. I'd like to know what Shakhtar paid for him? That's my opinion and it doesn't matter that it's not my money. Also because I and other people have the opinion we have paid too it much does not also mean we are being negative, pessimistic or whatever. We'll all still be supporting the club just as much as ever before and it's just an opinion on a message board.
 
TGR said:
morleyswife said:
Ducado said:
You don't actually know what the fee is do you?


Look Ducado you are a mod on here and I respect all the blues on here who are proper. If this is true at 34 mill then so be it (and I have renewed). Please look at my past posts and they are always positive in the main. I just feel that this is too much and for people just to dismiss it as "we are rich" is starting to play on my mind.

Even though we are rich does not mean you over inflate prices. It has far reaching effects that fans do not realise long term and for the perception of our club.

I suppose in a way city fans don't care about money, I still do. Swales out

Good post. If £34m is correct we have been seriously done over. However, if he does a job for us then it's money well spent. As with all transfers time will be ultimate judge.

When they quote prices in the paper it tends to be the maximum figure that will be paid. One way of getting around the FFP regulations is to have a lower initial fee them just pay clubs more in bonuses i.e. after 10 goals or after he's played 20 games etc...the initial figure will probably be about £15m and if he scores 100 goals and plays 100 games it could rise to £34m!
 
morleyswife said:
squirtyflower said:
morleyswife said:
So if it is 40 million?
tbh
i don't know what to believe
i have a (un)healthy sceptism regarding most of the media circus surrounding football clubs, particularly throughout the transfer window

You have not answered my question (tut tut) I will retort. So what if it is 40 mill euro signing on fee?(up front)
The sheikh will go here is you're cheque Shaktar.....
 
morleyswife said:
squirtyflower said:
morleyswife said:
So if it is 40 million?
tbh
i don't know what to believe
i have a (un)healthy sceptism regarding most of the media circus surrounding football clubs, particularly throughout the transfer window

You have not answered my question (tut tut) I will retort. So what if it is 40 mill euro signing on fee?(up front)
being trained in the sciences i've always had difficulty answering a hypothetical question asked as a stated fact
i thought my post may have hinted that i have no idea how much he cost and so it would be ridiculous of me to have a firm position based on no evidence
 
morleyswife said:
Paulmcfc2703 said:
morleyswife said:
Thanks that's why it has gone up 7% for the last 4 years. Clown. Get the meaning of my argument before posting. Clown
Our ticket prices are similar to fucking Norwich what more do you want?

So you are justifying paying £34 million by saying that Norwich season ticket prices are the same. Fucking great. Have you ever heard of Average income by geographical area. Even if you haven't I say it again £34 million
I have looked at this post. Tried to see the point and failed.

Essentially our tickets are average compared to all Prem teams. Teams such has Newcastle, Everton & Liverpool are located in very similar areas to Manchester which equate to a similar average income by geographical area so therefore pay the same as us. In fact Liverpool pay more yet we are challenging for the title.

If anything our ticket prices are very good value and considering we are spending £34 Million I will say that again £34 Million I would say we are lucky.

The execs will know the level of spending and will have budgeted for it.

So in summary I fail to see your point.
 
Blue Haze said:
barcajaden said:
what about javi garcia?

is he still gonna be a key member?

If Pelle didn't want him at Barca, I can't see him wanting him here.
Pellegrini didn't sell anyone at Barca.

Pellegrini didn't make decisions about buying and selling at Madrid. He won't here most likely either.
 
blue banks said:
Just watched the video on the OS ... have one query: is sharon still club photographer? no sign of her here, some other lass on snapping duty.


No mate, madrid came in with an offer and their dark room is air conditioned. Heard we will go for someone younger with better vision.
 
Falastur said:
morleyswife said:
I haven't even posted yet on this topic. The money DOES matter. If we are going to spunk 34 million on a guy we have the right to question it. If the season ticket prices go up again guess why.

I said this an hour back but it seems no-one noticed.

The more reliable reports that I've seen quote the figure as £22m, not 34. The £34m figure seems to be journos adding on the total salary figure for the contract also, trying to create the exact same unrest amongst the fans and hatred amongst non-fans that people such as yourself are falling for hook, line and sinker. It's exactly the same as the papers that claim Tevez cost £49m.
Exactly & the thick city fans fall for it every time, just ignore what the press say is the figure we paid, they have no idea & are trying to damage us.
 
Blue2112 said:
I too think if the reported 34m is correct then it's far too much money we've paid. I'd like to know what Shakhtar paid for him? That's my opinion and it doesn't matter that it's not my money. Also because I and other people have the opinion we have paid too it much does not also mean we are being negative, pessimistic or whatever. We'll all still be supporting the club just as much as ever before and it's just an opinion on a message board.

6.8 million euros.
 
Ray78 said:
Blue2112 said:
I too think if the reported 34m is correct then it's far too much money we've paid. I'd like to know what Shakhtar paid for him? That's my opinion and it doesn't matter that it's not my money. Also because I and other people have the opinion we have paid too it much does not also mean we are being negative, pessimistic or whatever. We'll all still be supporting the club just as much as ever before and it's just an opinion on a message board.

6.8 million euros.

Cheers Ray. That's a nice tidy profit for an 8 year investment.
 
squirtyflower said:
morleyswife said:
squirtyflower said:
tbh
i don't know what to believe
i have a (un)healthy sceptism regarding most of the media circus surrounding football clubs, particularly throughout the transfer window

You have not answered my question (tut tut) I will retort. So what if it is 40 mill euro signing on fee?(up front)
being trained in the sciences i've always had difficulty answering a hypothetical question asked as a stated fact
i thought my post may have hinted that i have no idea how much he cost and so it would be ridiculous of me to have a firm position based on no evidence

Hmmmm so your thinking is the same as mine.

Anyway as blues we re group. Thinking about it we blew 32 mill on Robbie (and I fucking loved that signing(on the day))

Anyway mid life crisis over.
 
Shakhtar issued a statement yesterday confirming that the deal will be worth a staggering €40 million (about £34 million) to them, although it will cost City about £30 million as a result of the Brazil midfielder’s willingness to forgo a bonus due under the terms of his contract.

The Times
 
Blue2112 said:
Ray78 said:
Blue2112 said:
I too think if the reported 34m is correct then it's far too much money we've paid. I'd like to know what Shakhtar paid for him? That's my opinion and it doesn't matter that it's not my money. Also because I and other people have the opinion we have paid too it much does not also mean we are being negative, pessimistic or whatever. We'll all still be supporting the club just as much as ever before and it's just an opinion on a message board.

6.8 million euros.

Cheers Ray. That's a nice tidy profit for an 8 year investment.

No worries. It proves with an excellent scouting network and patience there are bargains to be found. It was frustrating that when we were strapped for cash we were very lazy in not doing that and nearly paid the price. 30m is a bit steep, but he has bags of Champions League experience and a Uefa Cup winner medal.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Falastur said:
NoahCity said:
says 22 million as transfer fee on Wikipedia. :)

Yes, that might be because I am one of the users who maintain the City pages on Wikipedia ;)

I still think that £22m is the more likely figure.

I am hoping like Navas it's 20m plus a load of clauses to make it 30m.

Even without the blue-tinted specs, that sounds high. Most places say either £3.5m or £5m in clauses from a base of £20m, which wouldn't come close to £30m. Many places say £17m + £3.5m, which is the figures I believe are true for Navas. Heck, I even saw one place say £15m + clauses earlier. But Navas' deal won't even get remotely close to £30m, even if he triggers every clause on offer.
 
blue banks said:
Just watched the video on the OS ... have one query: is sharon still club photographer? no sign of her here, some other lass on snapping duty.

Workload has become so much they have employed someone to work with Sharon and cover. Bit of a looker too......
 
Blue2112 said:
I too think if the reported 34m is correct then it's far too much money we've paid. I'd like to know what Shakhtar paid for him? That's my opinion and it doesn't matter that it's not my money. Also because I and other people have the opinion we have paid too it much does not also mean we are being negative, pessimistic or whatever. We'll all still be supporting the club just as much as ever before and it's just an opinion on a message board.

Shakhtar paid £7m, but that was all of 8 years ago - almost a decade ago, when he was still a teenager. In that respect, £34m isn't too far out of line.
 
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