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As soon as one of Silva or Nasri drift into the middle of the park and join Yaya and Fernandinho, the opposition have a problem. The combination of physical presence and technical quality those players possess mean if you try and close them down and press them they're going to play right through you and be on top of your back four before you know it.

I actually thought CSKA were excellent defensively last night. They were compact, had a really good shape, the defenders and midfield left very little room to play in. Which makes our scoring so many goals all the more impressive.

And yes to go back to your point about Fernandinho, everything we do is built through him. He is to this team what Marcos Senna was to Pellegrini's Villareal team. The perfect foundation for the midfield to build from.

I think CSKA are a better team than a lot of people have credited; which does indeed make our wins against them more impressive.

Like the Senna comparison: a player that I wanted City to steal at one time. I continue to be impressed by how Fern is settling in.
I thought their forward Doumbia was good, and they passed the ball well on midfield, but defensively they were awful.

We could quite easily have been 4-0 up at half time instead of 3-1

Agreed. I thought Honda agave them a bit of creativity too. But they played a flat back line that was disastrously slow at moving forward. Excellent defence? There were some individual heroics but as a team they were very poor defensively.
 
absolutely love this player. he was gettin a little stick early on, but i was confident he'd improve our squad quite a bit. i think hes going to keep getting better and better as the season goes along.

if i had to make 1 criticism it'd be that i thought after watching highlights/reading about him that he'd be a little more involved in the attack. i suppose that's not his role as Yaya is the one who gets forward, but im 99% sure Ferd hasnt scored yet and i can only recall 1 or 2 shots.
 
Again, apologies if already posted. Warning, it's long...

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Back in June, Fernandinho arrived at Manchester City in a mega-money deal and faced the pressure of living up to that reputation. Here, he sits down with Peter Fraser to discuss his burning desire to win, life in England and his World Cup dream

'Why?' It was a question posed several times over the course of 20 minutes speaking to Fernandinho last week in the conference room of an upmarket hotel close to Manchester airport. The query is one of the most valuable in any conversation for encouraging details and establishing reason but it was not just a one-way dialogue.

'Por que?' Manchester City's £30million midfielder had his own question. It was in response to being asked whether, having already played in a Manchester derby this season, he would have liked to have had the chance to play against a Manchester United team managed by Sir Alex Ferguson. The Brazilian was not being dismissive of Ferguson, he simply wanted to know why he was being asked the question. When it was suggested any footballer might relish the derby challenge of facing a team organised by one of the greatest and most iconic managers of all time, Fernandinho replied: "It is hard to say, because I guess everything happens in the right time and in the right reasons. I played against David Moyes' United. I do not know what it is like to play against Sir Alex Ferguson's United."

Fernandinho was speaking through a translator, which never makes for the easiest or most free-flowing interview, while his English remains a work in progress. At times, if a one word answer would suffice, he was also more than content. Hence us both using 'why?'. But that is not to say City's summer signing from Shakhtar Donetsk was not motivated. Later, when the subject would turn to 2014's forthcoming Brazilian World Cup, it was clear to see what drives the 28-year-old's football ambition - winning. Fernandinho, whose move to City saw him waive £4m in bonuses owed to him by Shakhtar, said: "There is no point in not winning."

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He began his career at Atletico Paranaense in his home state of Parana in the south of Brazil before moving to Shakhtar in 2005. He then swapped Ukraine for England in June. As a result, he knows all about winning. With Shakhtar, he claimed six Ukrainian Premier League titles, four Ukrainian Cups, three Ukrainian Super Cups and the 2009 UEFA Cup. Having started the game as a substitute, he also scored the 87th minute winning goal in the final of the 2003 World Youth Championship, when Brazil beat a Spain side including Andres Iniesta. It was an incredibly eventful final for Fernandinho, who was also sent off before the final whistle.

The aim, and expectation given such an expensive transfer fee, is for Fernandinho to now bring that success to his career as a part of Manuel Pellegrini's Manchester City. The determination to be successful in England is certainly there, even if the midfielder likes to be light-hearted about the topic. "Win the most games and lose the fewest games," he said sarcastically in response to a question about what City can achieve this season. After a pause, he added: "I am joking, of course! I know it is hard and difficult but I hope we can win the league. We know we have to beat our opponents. We are really trying."

It is the prospect of winning the league and finishing above all of City's domestic opponents which had led us in the direction of United, and that question about Ferguson. City, the 'noisy neighbours', will need to top their derby rivals, who are of course in a period of transition under Ferguson's successor - Moyes, as well as the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and Liverpool.

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Fernandinho's tackles (red) and passes (yellow) along with his touches (right) against Manchester United

Fernandinho, as he said, has already sampled the derby against United in City's thumping 4-1 win over their arch enemies at the Etihad Stadium in September. The victory was to date City's best performance of the season, including last weekend's 7-0 thrashing of Norwich City. It was also the game in which Fernandinho announced himself in England, creating three chances - level with Samir Nasri as City's most creative player on the day, touching the ball 38 times, boasting a highly impressive 88.2 per cent pass success rate in United's half, and also making five interceptions - a higher number than any other player on the pitch.

He will need to maintain that form over the course of this season if he wants to emulate his City predecessors and win the Premier League, as they did under Roberto Mancini in 2012. And while he embraces the local battle with United, he knows they are not the solitary contest in England's widely-competitive top flight. Tapping his hand on the table as he spoke at an event to launch adidas' new Samba Predator football boots, he said: "It was my first derby but it was a great experience. We won, we played really well and I now know what the sensation is like and what it means to be going into a Manchester derby. But obviously Manchester United are not the only opposition. There are a lot of opponents and we have to treat each one as seriously."

Fernandinho, who was previously a transfer target for Tottenham and Chelsea, is enjoying life in England, and Manchester specifically. He likes the city's restaurants and thinks there is also "a good quality of life" for his wife and son, who are likewise learning English. The week before we met, he had taken his son to see a Disney show. He is also relishing the rock-and-roll atmosphere and rough-and tumble style of play of the Premier League, which always has such pulling power for foreigners. He explained: "Everything I imagined is happening. There are lots of games, the games are hard and the stadia are full. It is exactly how I pictured it would be."

Part of Fernandinho's happiness in England can also be attributed to the way he has settled straight into City as a club. He and Yaya Toure appear to have a burgeoning relationship in the central midfield of Pellegrini's formations, which vary between 4-2-3-1 and an orthodox 4-4-2. That pairing with Toure also sees the duo provide the service and defensive cover for City's star attackers and play-makers, such as the in-form Sergio Aguero, David Silva and Alvaro Negredo.

"It is fantastic, marvellous," praised Fernandinho of playing with Toure, Silva and Aguero - whose two goals against CSKA Moscow in the UEFA Champions League in midweek means the Argentine has now scored eight times in his last six matches in all competitions. Fernandinho then added with an answer which was perhaps slightly lost in translation: "They are great players. Who wants to play with wooden-legged players?"

The English element of City's squad, who reached the knockout stages of the Champions League for the first time in their history after that 5-2 beating of CSKA, have also been more than welcoming. They include the under-fire Joe Hart and the goalkeeper's fellow title-winners from 2012 - Micah Richards, Joleon Lescott and James Milner - along with August 2012 signing Jack Rodwell. All five of those players are not currently first-team starters under Pellegrini while Gareth Barry was loaned to Everton after Fernandinho was signed. But that has not damaged any squad spirit.

"When anyone arrives in a new place, I think the best idea is to gather as much information as possible," said Fernandinho. "Off the pitch, I needed to rent a house, buy a car, know where this is, know where that is. I am constantly asking the English guys and they are able to guide me. At the club, it is the same. For example, I will get to the club and the schedule is up and some things might have changed. If you have never experienced it before, you can be a bit confused. I ask my team-mates and they can explain. They help a lot."

Fernandinho will now want to return those favours by helping City, who visit Sunderland live on Sky Sports 1HD on Sunday, to the Premier League title along with further progress in the Champions League. But, beyond the end of this season, his sights are set on the World Cup and earning a call-up to Luiz Felipe Scolari's Brazil squad. Fernandinho was overlooked by his national team when in Ukraine and that was one of the decisive factors in his move to England.

And when our chat nears its end with the subject of next summer's World Cup, where hosts Brazil will be under huge pressure to succeed in what would be a party atmosphere, it is clear Fernandinho, who would have his first - and probably last - chance of going to a finals, does not want to miss out. He explained with that earlier reference to his desire for success: "The World Cup is contagious for fans. I do not know what it is like in England but, in Brazil, everything stops. People stop. It is about watching the game. It would be the best experience in my life to play in the World Cup but to also win because there is no point in not winning."

With that, and with a noisy Sunday national newspaper corps waiting outside the conference room for a round-the-table gathering with a different City player, our time comes to an end. Fernandinho makes his exit. That winning mentality is the lasting memory of the Brazilian. He is keen to achieve in his career and, if that sense of accomplishment does not continue, he does not want to be left wondering 'why?'.

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NanaToure42 said:
absolutely love this player. he was gettin a little stick early on, but i was confident he'd improve our squad quite a bit. i think hes going to keep getting better and better as the season goes along.

if i had to make 1 criticism it'd be that i thought after watching highlights/reading about him that he'd be a little more involved in the attack. i suppose that's not his role as Yaya is the one who gets forward, but im 99% sure Ferd hasnt scored yet and i can only recall 1 or 2 shots.


I think he will as he gets more comfortable. I think he was a bit too passive early on but that's to be expected playing with Yaya, Silva etc.. He just needs to find his role going forward. But as you pointed out that's not his first priority. Just think of him as Barry and doing his job. Just being more mobile and providing some long range attacking passes.
 
Fernandinho is contemplating defeat. The kind of infuriating, inexplicable defeats that keep Manchester City’s £30million midfielder awake at night.

‘It feels like a hurricane, a tornado inside my head,’ says the Brazilian. ‘I can’t sleep after we’ve lost. I end up going to bed at 4am.

‘There’s a lot of emotion. In my mind I’m going through what we did wrong and how it could have happened.’

It has happened too often for Fernandinho’s liking this season. City’s 7-0 demolition of Norwich last weekend might have maintained their impressive 100 per cent home record in the Premier League, scoring an average of four goals a game in the process, but away from the Etihad it has been a very different story.

Five games, three defeats. To Cardiff, Aston Villa and Chelsea. Pn Sunday, City travel to the Stadium of Light where, worryingly, they have lost to Sunderland on each of their last three visits.

A UEFA Cup winner and Ukrainian champion six times over with Shakhtar Donetsk, Fernandinho doesn’t take well to failure.

‘Being somewhere just to be there, that’s not me – I want to win absolutely everything,’ says a player who is puzzled by City’s setbacks this season after investing in nearly £100m-worth of new talent in the summer.

‘I am surprised, especially the way we’ve lost. It’s different if you play badly. You can’t get into the box, everyone’s making different decisions and you’re not gelling.

‘When you’re playing better than the other team, it’s difficult to accept.

‘But if you can give me an example of a team that was built in two months and everything went well I’d like to hear it. It’s normal to take some tumbles at the beginning.’

It’s a cold, wet autumn day in Cheshire but Fernando Luiz Roza, to give him his full name, has turned up in a t-shirt. Safe to say, this is not your typical Brazilian import.

City know the sort. After all, they blew £50m on Robinho and Jo. Across town at Manchester United they still shudder at the mention of Kleberson while Anderson’s days at Old Trafford would appear to be numbered.

Fernandinho comes across differently. There is a steely resolve that helped keep him going through eight freezing winters in Donetsk, where it was so cold he once set up a barbecue in his garage, and then saw him kiss goodbye to £4m in bonuses because he was determined to secure a move to City in June.

New manager Manuel Pellegrini and director of football Txiki Begiristain made him their primary target from the outset, even though many questioned the wisdom of paying so much for a predominantly defensive midfielder who had just turned 28. Some still do given that his performances so far have been steady rather than spectacular.

Club insiders talk about a reliable, down-to-earth character on and off the pitch. Like chalk and cheese compared to Robinho was one description.

A video dedicated to him on City’s website is accompanied by the obligatory samba music but there is a conspicuous lack of fancy tricks, just their new No.25 knocking down a series of opponents in a manner more reminiscent of Ron ‘Chopper’ Harris than Ronaldinho.

‘Do you think I should change my style?’ he smiles. ‘When you tell a lot of Brazilians they are going to play in Europe it can be a bit of a shock or even intimidating, but I’ve been preparing for it for 10 years and now I’m here.

‘It’s always been a plan of mine to be playing in a big club in a big league. I was constantly looking at what Europeans like, how they play and what they do.

‘Yes there have been other Brazilian players who have come and maybe haven’t done so well.

‘It might be a weird thing about me but I’m never had a problem. I left home when I was 17 and moved to a city and did fine. I moved to the Ukraine where it’s unbelievably cold compared to Brazil but I did really well.

‘What happens with a lot with footballers, if they have a problem with the weather, the food, the culture, sometimes it’s none of those things. It’s the actual person.

‘I don’t miss anything about Ukraine or Brazil. I’m the kind of person who likes to live moment by moment so I’m concentrating on the here and now.’

His was a typical upbringing in the southern Brazilian city of Londrina – the former British settlement of Little London – playing football for hours on end outside the family home using flip flops for goalposts.

A young Fernandinho left home and moved to Atletico Paranaense in the state capital Curitiba for three years before Shakhtar persuaded him to join the ever-increasing Brazilian contingent in Ukraine.

Tottenham tried to sign him and so did Chelsea after he scored against them in the Champions League group stage last season, but it was City who got their man.

‘They were the team that made me feel completely 100 per cent assured in how much they wanted me,’ he says. ‘That was something the other teams maybe didn’t do.

‘I let that money (the bonuses) go because it was the right move for me. Whether other players should do it or not is difficult because everyone thinks with a different mindset. For me, I did it at the right time.’

Instead, Spurs signed Paulinho and Chelsea brought in Fernandinho’s former Shakhtar teammate Willian. All three are competing for a place in Brazil’s midfield with the World Cup set to kick off in their homeland in seven months’ time.

It’s an intriguing sub-plot and one of the reasons why Fernandinho, concerned over his modest total of five international caps, wanted a higher profile by moving to the Premier League.

‘Willian I obviously know very well,’ he says. ‘We are friends and speak often. But I’ve never met Paulinho.

‘Each one of us has to defend their team and win the title first and foremost. When it comes to the World Cup all of us want to be involved so we will all do what it takes. But the decision isn’t ours. All we can do is show what we can do on the pitch.’

Tatooed on the inside of Fernandinho’s left wrist is the name of his wife, Glaucia. The couple are settling into English life and she hopes to begin a university course now their young son Davi has started school.

Fernandinho already speaks Portuguese, Russian, Italian and Spanish, and is picking up English quickly even though he still prefers to conduct interviews through an interpreter.

The boy who used to follow his father to all his games and copied him to the extent of tying his bootlaces in the same way now watches his own son playing in the back garden of their new home, inseparable from a ball.

‘All day every day he’s playing football,’ he says. ‘If it’s up to me, he’ll be better than his dad.’

It is, you suspect, the only defeat that Fernandinho would be prepared to accept

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Very interesting and exciting interview in Mail. Family embracing Manchester, not afraid of the rain and cold....... Happy days
 
NI Blue said:
Very interesting and exciting interview in Mail. Family embracing Manchester, not afraid of the rain and cold....... Happy days
About time we got another proper industrious player. Does all the heavy lifting, no airs about him. Great lad.
 
I feel sorry for him, there's the Spanish/Argie clan then the Balkan clan then the British clan + Nasri, Clichy, Yaya and Kompany who can all speak excellent English.
 
Kun Aguero said:
I feel sorry for him, there's the Spanish/Argie clan then the Balkan clan then the British clan + Nasri, Clichy, Yaya and Kompany who can all speak excellent English.


The interview states he can speak spanish, also easy enough to pick up the english that he needs to play. different for interviews obviously. I mean I can manage in spanish on holidays, meals, shopping etc but couldnt give an interview in it
 
Kun Aguero said:
I feel sorry for him, there's the Spanish/Argie clan then the Balkan clan then the British clan + Nasri, Clichy, Yaya and Kompany who can all speak excellent English.
Him and Rony Lopes seem to get on well, they both have the Brazilian background and both speak Portuguese. He seems a good egg though, so I can't imagine he'll struggle. I'd have thought that Javi can speak Portuguese aswell
 
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