Fernandinho

[Skip Donoghue]

Because they haven't seen him. "He can't be that good cause he's in Ukrainian league" and the like jsut don't get it. There are good players there and they proved it in the CL last year. I would urge people to take a look at his games vs Dortmund, Juve and Chelsea and you'll see his class and he made more than his share of tackles.

I've just watched him twice in two days, live.

He's not a 32 million player. Probably worth half that. More mobile than Barry but less tenacious. Better in the tackle than Rodwell but lest direct and powerful. Shadow of a player compared to Yaya.

He's ok but not much more.

load of shit

It is frightening what people base their opinion of players on....two games has to be a record for this place....even the most harshest of critics on here give a player a few months, but two games and those two games were pre-season friendlies, I despair sometimes........as someone said bookmark this and come back to it at the end of the season, ready to eat a very big piece of humble pie and admit basing an opinion on a player after two pre-season friendlies is a very foolish thing to do

 

[The Flash]

To be fair, I think he looks the bollocks.

So we may have paid a little over the odds? We paid £16m for Javi GoSlower.

The defence rests.

 

[NipHolmes]

To be fair, I think he looks the bollocks.

So we may have paid a little over the odds? We paid £16m for Javi GoSlower.

The defence rests.

The way I see it is football is all opinion and price isn't determined by fairness but it's what the rights-owner/team wants for their asset.

If i go to buy a Ford Mondeo and there's 5 others the same then price matters. In football there is wages to factor in, willingness for player to come and how much the team values that player. The fact of matter is Shakhtar didn't want to sell, they built a team around him and Willian and held us to ransom. We paid what we had to pay to get the player and that's all there is to it. 5 years a go we could be questioned but right now we can't because in football today if we don't pay someone else will, fact. Moura was opverpriced by 20mill easy, yet PSG paid it. Cavani is imho a £35-40m player and yet he sold for £55m. City, Chelsea and Real all said £40m tops apparently yet he went for more. Now one person can say they were robbed but another will say that's how it goes. You pay what you have to pay to get the player.

Fernandinho transfer is expensive by £5-10m imo but what's good is wages. Khedira or De Rossi for instance want at least £150k pw in wages whereas Fernandinho is on half of that (80k pw?) and that needs to be considered as much as the fee yet nobody does factor that.

The pundits who ridicule him and our other signings will have egg on their faces. This is no Sinclair, Garcia and Maicon set of signings. If United did what we have I'd be worried to be honest.

 

[The Flash]

To be fair, I think he looks the bollocks.

So we may have paid a little over the odds? We paid £16m for Javi GoSlower.

The defence rests.

The way I see it is football is all opinion and price isn;t detremined by fairness but it's what the rights-owner/team wants for their asset.

If i go to buy a Ford Mondeo and there's 5 others the same then price matters. In football there is wages to factor in, willingness for player to come and how much the team values that player. The fact of matter is Shaktar didn't want to sell, they built a team around him and Willian and held us to ransom. We paid what we had to pay to get the player and that's all there is to it. 5 years a go we could be questioned but right now we can't because in football today if we don't pay someone else will, fact. Moura was opverpriced by 20mill easy, yet PSG paid it. Cavani is imho a £35-40m player and yet he sold for £55m. City, Chelsea and Real all said £40m tops apparently yet he went for more. Now one person can say they were robbed but another will say that's how it goes. You pay what you have to pay to get the player.

Fernandinho transfer is expensive by £5-10m imo but what's good is wages. Khedira or De Rossi for instance want at least £150k pw in wages whereas Fernandinho is on half of that (80k pw?) and that needs to be considered as much as the fee yet nobody does factor that.

The pundits who ridicule him and our other signings will have egg on their faces. This is no Sinclair, Garcia and Maicon set of signings. If United did what we have I'd be worried to be honest.

I totally agree.

 

[andrewmswift]

To be fair, I think he looks the bollocks.

So we may have paid a little over the odds? We paid £16m for Javi GoSlower.

The defence rests.

The way I see it is football is all opinion and price isn;t detremined by fairness but it's what the rights-owner/team wants for their asset.

If i go to buy a Ford Mondeo and there's 5 others the same then price matters. In football there is wages to factor in, willingness for player to come and how much the team values that player. The fact of matter is Shaktar didn't want to sell, they built a team around him and Willian and held us to ransom. We paid what we had to pay to get the player and that's all there is to it. 5 years a go we could be questioned but right now we can't because in football today if we don't pay someone else will, fact. Moura was opverpriced by 20mill easy, yet PSG paid it. Cavani is imho a £35-40m player and yet he sold for £55m. City, Chelsea and Real all said £40m tops apparently yet he went for more. Now one person can say they were robbed but another will say that's how it goes. You pay what you have to pay to get the player.

Fernandinho transfer is expensive by £5-10m imo but what's good is wages. Khedira or De Rossi for instance want at least £150k pw in wages whereas Fernandinho is on half of that (80k pw?) and that needs to be considered as much as the fee yet nobody does factor that.

The pundits who ridicule him and our other signings will have egg on their faces. This is no Sinclair, Garcia and Maicon set of signings. If United did what we have I'd be worried to be honest.

I totally agree.

same.

re: them, i just can't see them competing with us and chelsea this year. think they'll be fighting for 4th.

 

[Why Always Ste]

To be fair, I think he looks the bollocks.

So we may have paid a little over the odds? We paid £16m for Javi GoSlower.

The defence rests.

The way I see it is football is all opinion and price isn;t detremined by fairness but it's what the rights-owner/team wants for their asset.

If i go to buy a Ford Mondeo and there's 5 others the same then price matters. In football there is wages to factor in, willingness for player to come and how much the team values that player. The fact of matter is Shaktar didn't want to sell, they built a team around him and Willian and held us to ransom. We paid what we had to pay to get the player and that's all there is to it. 5 years a go we could be questioned but right now we can't because in football today if we don't pay someone else will, fact. Moura was opverpriced by 20mill easy, yet PSG paid it. Cavani is imho a £35-40m player and yet he sold for £55m. City, Chelsea and Real all said £40m tops apparently yet he went for more. Now one person can say they were robbed but another will say that's how it goes. You pay what you have to pay to get the player.

Fernandinho transfer is expensive by £5-10m imo but what's good is wages. Khedira or De Rossi for instance want at least £150k pw in wages whereas Fernandinho is on half of that (80k pw?) and that needs to be considered as much as the fee yet nobody does factor that.

The pundits who ridicule him and our other signings will have egg on their faces. This is no Sinclair, Garcia and Maicon set of signings. If United did what we have I'd be worried to be honest.

Good post.

Fernandinho looks good. Just remind yourselves Andy Carroll was sold for £35 Million.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

To be fair, I think he looks the bollocks.

So we may have paid a little over the odds? We paid £16m for Javi GoSlower.

The defence rests.

The way I see it is football is all opinion and price isn;t detremined by fairness but it's what the rights-owner/team wants for their asset.

If i go to buy a Ford Mondeo and there's 5 others the same then price matters. In football there is wages to factor in, willingness for player to come and how much the team values that player. The fact of matter is Shaktar didn't want to sell, they built a team around him and Willian and held us to ransom. We paid what we had to pay to get the player and that's all there is to it. 5 years a go we could be questioned but right now we can't because in football today if we don't pay someone else will, fact. Moura was opverpriced by 20mill easy, yet PSG paid it. Cavani is imho a £35-40m player and yet he sold for £55m. City, Chelsea and Real all said £40m tops apparently yet he went for more. Now one person can say they were robbed but another will say that's how it goes. You pay what you have to pay to get the player.

Fernandinho transfer is expensive by £5-10m imo but what's good is wages. Khedira or De Rossi for instance want at least £150k pw in wages whereas Fernandinho is on half of that (80k pw?) and that needs to be considered as much as the fee yet nobody does factor that.

The pundits who ridicule him and our other signings will have egg on their faces. This is no Sinclair, Garcia and Maicon set of signings. If United did what we have I'd be worried to be honest.

Good post.

Fernandinho looks good. Just remind yourselves Andy Carroll was sold for £35 Million.

He was also bought for £35 Million. And there were a few on here who rated him.

 

[Chezzy blue]

Two games and he's shit, FFS. Looked a little clumsy last night against
Bayern, but still put some neat balls through for Negredo and Dzeko to
try and latch on to. He will be a key player next season, mark my words.
And he's got a great engine aswell, last night showed that, when a lot
of City's players were flagging, he was still everywhere. Top signing.

 

[6one]

It's irrelevant what he cost. Please stop saying "he's not a £30m player". It really makes no difference when discussing whether he is a good player or not.

I personally think that those who have taken a dislike to him have done so because he looks as though he hasn't gone into challenges like Milner or Barry would.

I think that's down to it being pre-season, given he had the most tackles per game of any player in last years Champions League.

He also anticipates and therefore intercepts rather than react, which is better.

The best thing so far about him is that he always looks to pass forwards. He is cool on the ball even when marked.

There was one occasion yesterday where Milner broke away, it was 3 v 3, he waited so long with the ball that he lost the chance and it became 6 v 3 in Bayern's favour. This is why for all Milner's grit, he will never really be good enough for a starting position in our first choice team to take on Europe's elite.

Fernandinho on the other hand, has the necessary skill added to his grit.

 

[BibbyBlue85]

an excellent player, boggles my mind some on here don't rate him

Because they haven't seen him. "He can't be that good cause he's in Ukrainian league" and the like jsut don't get it. There are good players there and they proved it in the CL last year. I would urge people to take a look at his games vs Dortmund, Juve and Chelsea and you'll see his class and he made more than his share of tackles.

I've just watched him twice in two days, live.

He's not a 32 million player. Probably worth half that. More mobile than Barry but less tenacious. Better in the tackle than Rodwell but lest direct and powerful. Shadow of a player compared to Yaya.

He's ok but not much more.

Fernandinho ok?

Lol just watch