01cravend
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Why did we make the change straight after scoring :S...Nasri is so frustrating the way he slows play down in the final third
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Fernandinho
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He is but a different sort of player at Shaktar he had workhorse next him T.HUBSCHMAN he was their Yaya. I thought he was brought in to get the best out Yaya going forward but today he was further forward leaving Yaya as the holding midfielder. Yaya as good as he is going forward his pressing & closing down opposition players has always been poor. A Yaya & Fernanindinho pairing is unbalanced alright for some home games but for the tough away games and European games We should go with Yaya Fernandinho Rodwell.
kun
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Typical overreaction. He was brilliant in pre-season and brilliant against Newcastle. He had a bad game today but if I'm honest he was no worse than Yaya was.
greasedupdeafguy said:No we didn't we had similar performances like this when Barry was in the side.CC1 said:greasedupdeafguy said:
We missed Barry today.....whatever you say
We did-but we also had many times more good performances with him in the team. Its a mistake to discard him.<br /><br />-- Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:25 pm --<br /><br />
kun said:Typical overreaction. He was brilliant in pre-season and brilliant against Newcastle. He had a bad game today but if I'm honest he was no worse than Yaya was.
Was he brilliant against Newcastle?!
There will often be balance issues with Yaya/Fernandinho, maybe not so much at home when we are hunting in packs. But neither of them are 'terriers' who will screen the defence like Medel for Cardiff was for example. In games like this, you either play a three (with Yaya further forward) with a proper holding midfielder or make a sacrifice. I think Fernandinho looks very skillful going forward, he can almost morph into a winger at will too, but the defence is left exposed.
kun
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yes.bert38 said:greasedupdeafguy said:No we didn't we had similar performances like this when Barry was in the side.CC1 said:We missed Barry today.....whatever you say
We did-but we also had many times more good performances with him in the team. Its a mistake to discard him.
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kun said:Typical overreaction. He was brilliant in pre-season and brilliant against Newcastle. He had a bad game today but if I'm honest he was no worse than Yaya was.
Was he brilliant against Newcastle?!
kun said:Typical overreaction. He was brilliant in pre-season and brilliant against Newcastle. He had a bad game today but if I'm honest he was no worse than Yaya was.
I'd agree that he wasn't any worse than Yaya, but I didn't see this brilliance in pre-season or against a quite frankly woeful Geordie midfield. He was OK against them, nothing more, nothing less.
There is a distinct drop off in quality from Yaya and Fernandinho, so that when either of them have an off day there isn't really any quality we can bring on.
Milner is solid but nothing special, Rodwell is injury prone so can't be relied on and Garcia is Garcia.
Milner is solid but nothing special, Rodwell is injury prone so can't be relied on and Garcia is Garcia.
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He makes fitzroy simpson look like an accomplished midfielder. Time will tell I guess but for £30 million i'd have expected a lot more out of him today tbh.
sam-caddick
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I thought he had a pretty bad game today, but today will teach him alot about what to expect in the Premier League.
I still think he his trying to find confidence, it took him until late in the the second half against Newcastle to see any wonder-ball diagonal passes to the wingers, but today I don't think I saw him attempt one.
Give it a few months until we see more going forward from Fernadinho in my opinion, I think with his current state of confidence and being in an new team he plays everything too safe and doesn't want to make mistakes.
I still think he his trying to find confidence, it took him until late in the the second half against Newcastle to see any wonder-ball diagonal passes to the wingers, but today I don't think I saw him attempt one.
Give it a few months until we see more going forward from Fernadinho in my opinion, I think with his current state of confidence and being in an new team he plays everything too safe and doesn't want to make mistakes.
Problem is we only have 1 decent holding midfielder in Barry who looks likely to be sold.LoveCity said:There will often be balance issues with Yaya/Fernandinho, maybe not so much at home when we are hunting in packs. But neither of them are 'terriers' who will screen the defence like Medel for Cardiff was for example. In games like this, you either play a three (with Yaya further forward) with a proper holding midfielder or make a sacrifice. I think Fernandinho looks very skillful going forward, he can almost morph into a winger at will too, but the defence is left exposed.
Funny that-that's who he reminds me of. But I guess given time he will settle. They must have seen something.menorcansunshine said:He makes fitzroy simpson look like an accomplished midfielder. Time will tell I guess but for £30 million i'd have expected a lot more out of him today tbh.
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I'm sure he will improve over time, because he cannot possible be this bad, like he was today.
But if you cannot expect such an experienced and expensive player to deliver the goods - on at least an average basis right away, then I don't know what to say. Piss poor performance, and his price tag is a fucking joke. Yes hopefully times will change, but its so damn naive to defend him and just say - give him time.
He's not some young promising player, he's supposed to be an experienced professional. And how come we see other players hit it off right away? He really deserves the abuse, but at the same time I'm not writing him off. But let's be feckin honest and just tell it like it is.
But if you cannot expect such an experienced and expensive player to deliver the goods - on at least an average basis right away, then I don't know what to say. Piss poor performance, and his price tag is a fucking joke. Yes hopefully times will change, but its so damn naive to defend him and just say - give him time.
He's not some young promising player, he's supposed to be an experienced professional. And how come we see other players hit it off right away? He really deserves the abuse, but at the same time I'm not writing him off. But let's be feckin honest and just tell it like it is.
mammutly
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I'll go back to what i said on page 5 of this thread - he reminds me of Jo. Big hype, big price, on the edges of the Brazilian national team, but not quite the star he was made out to be. He just isn't a great footballer.
Still early days but after watching him in 2 competitive games nothing special he can't tackle for a start and he is easily tackled but he has a bit if pace and can pass the ball oh he has experience at the top level as in champions league football
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mammutly said:I'll go back to what i said on page 5 of this thread - he reminds me of Jo. Big hype, big price, on the edges of the Brazilian national team, but not quite the star he was made out to be. He just isn't a great footballer.
based on two games one of which he played great he is now like JO,.....
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