Fernandinho

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blightee said:
I stream football at work lol; whats it to you?
and yes i do watch german, spanish, russian, ukrainian, brazilian leagues etc every week
Oi Raggy why not worry about Gollum turing united into everton
instead of judging a player (who has done very well btw ) on 5 fucking pre season games. Its a bit strange how much you have it in for him.

muppet.
 
LoveCity said:
blightee said:
Gundogan? Bender? Gustavo? Fellani? Xabi Alonso?
All better players that we could have gotten for the same or less money

Fernandinho is a much superior footballer to Fellaini. If you think Fellaini would be a better signing for City, I don't think you understand styles of football and how we want to play. Fellaini works best off the striker receiving long balls. He's nothing special with the ball at his feet and Fernandinho is a much better all-rounder with better technical ability and pace (something that has been badly lacking in our midfield and addressed with Fernandinho).

Gustavo is purely a holding midfielder who would be a good signing for City but IN ADDITION to Fernandinho, not INSTEAD OF. Fernandinho is a dynamic midfielder which Gustavo isn't. Gustavo is a good holding midfielder who would protect the defence well in place of Garcia and/or Barry. He offers much less than Fernandinho beyond the half way line.

Alonso lost a step last season and is on the decline. City have done well to avoid him even though I would have loved him here once. It was obvious against Dortmund that he's lost something at the highest level.

Bender and Gundogan are both unavailable. If Dortmund had any willingness to sell more players, do you think they'd still be there? They are being very careful not to do a Porto and let themselves be asset stripped. Real Madrid and the rags have both sent for Gundogan, but Dortmund risk riots if they sell more big players (Reus another who is staying) after Gotze and with Lewandowski's exit inevitable.

You could wheel off names all day... you forgot the best, Vidal - but like some of the others he simply isn't available and you can't make a club sell unless you offer something like £60million (that is about what Vidal would cost). We got possibly the best available. Fernandinho was desperate to join so unlike some of the others was obtainable... Brazil's selectors ignore Ukraine so he will be hugely motivated (unlike someone on a last pay day like Alonso) to impress this year.

The fact you say Inler is better than Fernandinho makes me think you watch very little football. Inler is decent but not even close to Fernandinho's level... you have it in your mind now that Fernandinho isn't good though, so I won't even bother trying to argue that.

Try supporting the player instead of being so CLEARLY desperate for him to fail. Very egotistical.

Saved me a job. Cracking player Fernandinho.
 
pudge said:
blightee said:
I stream football at work lol; whats it to you?
and yes i do watch german, spanish, russian, ukrainian, brazilian leagues etc every week
Do you bend the space time continuum whilst at work too?

perhaps he does nights on consecutive weeks..
 
blightee said:
what a load of shit; he is not a 34.8million pound player, there are plenty of better midfielders that we could have gone after with that kind of money. He is not better than Paulinho, who is younger and went for half the price. Modric went to madrid last season for the exact same price, Modric is far and away a better player and more representitve of what a 35 million pound player should be. We got ripped off by Shaktar because it appears we had no other real targets, and they knew it.

But neither of them play the role that Fernandinho plays. They are attacking midfielders not defensive midfielders who link the play into attack. I guess you are only looking at goals to base your determination. Yes those players score more goals. That's not Fernandinho's job. We need a player who can shield the defence, then start the counter attack. Maybe we should just sign 10 strikers that score 20 goals a season. We would then score 760 goals, a PL record and obviously win every game.
 
moggymoz said:
Gelsons Dad said:
Mr. Aguia said:
Because they haven't seen him. "He can't be that good cause he's in Ukrainian league" and the like jsut don't get it. There are good players there and they proved it in the CL last year. I would urge people to take a look at his games vs Dortmund, Juve and Chelsea and you'll see his class and he made more than his share of tackles.

I've just watched him twice in two days, live.

He's not a 32 million player. Probably worth half that. More mobile than Barry but less tenacious. Better in the tackle than Rodwell but lest direct and powerful. Shadow of a player compared to Yaya.

He's ok but not much more.

So who is your type of player... Giggs, Scholes ...
RAG

gelson a rag, ha ha.
pmsl.
 
Like what I have seen so far.

He sits in front of the defence and breaks up play and moves forward to press our advantage when attacking.

In other words exactly what we have needed.
 
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
Like what I have seen so far.

He sits in front of the defence and breaks up play and moves forward to press our advantage when attacking.

In other words exactly what we have needed.

spot on.
 
blinkblue said:
blightee said:
no, but its my club and I think we could have gotten a better player with that amount of money.

How often did you watch him before he came to City?

Seeing the posts, have to ask Blightee How often he watched City before he came????
 
At City’s training ground, Carrington, ahead of Monday’s first league game of the season, at home to Newcastle United, Fernandinho provides compelling evidence of that “open soul”. Here is a 28-year-old who waived £4 million in fees and bonuses owed to him by the Ukrainian club in order to finally make the move to the Premier League. He asks: “Why should people be surprised by that? Maybe England should have more players who don’t only think of money If I only wanted money and a comfortable life from my career, I would have stayed in the Ukraine.”

Here, also, is a player who reveals that Chelsea tried to sign him this summer and Tottenham Hotspur had made efforts last year. And here is a Brazilian international — albeit one who had made puzzlingly few appearances — who can declare that part of his mission is to change “the perception that people have over here about the way Brazilians play. A lot of Brazilians have played in the Premier League, with mixed results.” City fans will concur with that with a collective shudder, recalling the big-money failures of Robinho and Jo.

But Fernandinho is cut from a different cloth, not least because with his high-energy, positive, robust style he is part of a new breed of Brazilians ideally suited to the physical demands of European football and, it would appear, England in particular.

There is relish in his voice when he considers his move to City. “I came here to win,” says the man who is used to serial achievement — six league titles in eight years in Ukraine with that country’s richest club and who now wants to win more with England’s wealthiest.

“Of course, I will be paid as a professional footballer, but the only thing I am greedy for is success,” Fernandinho explains. “In my country we say that football is like a huge plate of food — well, I want to eat everything because I want to win every trophy that I can for City.”

Fernandinho was hungry in Donetsk, the mining town dominated by the futuristic Donbass Arena and propped up by the millions invested by oligarch Rinat Akhmetov. That hunger was literal on one occasion with Fernandinho recalling the bitterly-cold winter day when his craving for a Brazilian barbecue led to him hurriedly buying and then setting up an electric grill in the garage of his home.

“It was a desperate situation I was in at the time,” he says. “I was desperate to have a barbecue, I love eating meat from a barbecue and it was so long since I had had one. The only place I could have one was in the garage so I had it in there. It was so cold I couldn’t go outside. I moved the cars out, put the central heating on. It was nice, actually.”

It also demonstrated Fernandinho’s ability to adapt. He is not the only Brazilian to make the journey to Donetsk — Bernard is the latest import — but he stayed longer than most. “What I did there was to work hard — and I achieved what I achieved. It’s what I have to do everywhere I go,” he says.

It could have been Chelsea, rather than City — “I know there were negotiations between Shakhtar and Chelsea,” Fernandinho says — but the Ukrainian club, interestingly, “made it clear” they would prefer to sell to City. “Shakhtar told me they had refused an offer,” he says. “There was also a stage a year ago when I spoke to people from Tottenham, but nothing came of that.”

Instead Spurs signed Paulinho this year and the pair are rivals for a place in Luiz Felipe Scolari’s World Cup squad. Fernandinho — as Willian found before him — realises that playing in Ukraine lessened his chances of international football.

“I decided that I had to leave Ukraine to play in a strong league that would help me get the attention of the people in charge of the Brazilian national team,” he says.

Fernandinho has consistently shown a willingness to adapt. He speaks four languages — Portuguese, Russian, Italian and Spanish — and is quickly picking up English although this interview was understandably conducted through a translator. Still he does not feel the need for lessons — “I find the best way to learn a new language is to talk to people” — and having left home when he was 17 and quit Brazil when he was 20, he shrugs off any concerns over settling.

“Every time I put football at the forefront,” Fernandinho says. “That’s the reason.”

Already his three-year-old son sleeps with a football. “I think it’s genetic within my family,” Fernandinho declares of the love of the game and his days growing up in the district of Londrina (‘Little London’) in southern Brazil. “Since I was a child we used flip-flops or bricks to mark the goal-posts and that was it — we’d have our pitch on the street.” City was not a hard sell. And Fernandinho’s arrival, under new manager Manuel Pellegrini, was soon followed by Alvaro Negredo, Jesus Navas and Stefan Jovetic — close to £100 million of signings — representing huge intent.

“The club already has a high name around the world,” Fernandinho says. “I think City is on the way up there, to be at a similar level to [Manchester] United. We saw that in the summer when we went on tour — we had loads of supporters there. It’s going to be a huge club.”

And what will Fernandinho contribute? “I like to have the ball at my feet a lot,” he says with Pellegrini indicating he will be part of a powerful central midfield pivot alongside Yaya Touré.

“I aim to help my team-mates by making assists and, of course I like to score goals. I also understand that I have a responsibility to try to stop the other team, so marking and tackling are just as important to my game. I feel well suited to the game that is played in the Premier League.”

That has not always been the case with his countrymen. “I know that many Brazilians haven’t been well thought of in England because of the different style of play here,” Fernandinho says.

“A lot of Brazilians have played in the Premier League, with mixed results. Will I be different? Well, personally speaking, I think one of my biggest qualities is my consistency I am a balanced footballer.” And a balanced person
 
His big hope of getting into the Brazil WC squad depends on that he has a very good season with City ad plays a lot without injuires rotation.

He was not in their squad for the midweek match which is not a good sign, but there will be friendlies for Brazil in September, October, November Fernandinho has to be called up if he plays well at City.
If he wont be called up then probably he wont be part of the WC squad as Scolari maybe plays the ones on friendlies from he wants to build the team for the WC.

Interesting there was a midfielder sub vs Switzerland for them called Fernando who played in Gremio but this summer he signed for Sahtar (maybe exactly instead of Fernandinho) 21 year old talented midfielder.

And to be fair its very hard to get into that midfield Scolari already has Luis Gustavo, Lucas, Hernanes, Paulinho for two positions.
 
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