Fernandinho

[keemcfc]

Milner did the job ok in the second half, although we could do with some more cover there

 

[bandwagon]

Milner did the job ok in the second half, although we could do with some more cover there

problem is that milner is not a play maker. he's more of a barn stormer.

fernandinho is a very interesting player. he has a bit of makalele inside him. a bit of scholes, busquets and senna. he is the deep lying play maker we have been missing.

 

[ws01]

We missed him above all the other day, IMO.

The lack of control, tempo and mobility in the middle was telling without him.

 

[keemcfc]

Milner did the job ok in the second half, although we could do with some more cover there

problem is that milner is not a play maker. he's more of a barn stormer.

fernandinho is a very interesting player. he has a bit of makalele inside him. a bit of scholes, busquets and senna. he is the deep lying play maker we have been missing.

He was Villas creative midfielder when he was there, he has got a good pass on him but he just doesn't have the same eye for a pass as people like fernandinho

 

[football-fan]

We missed him above all the other day, IMO.

The lack of control, tempo and mobility in the middle was telling without him.

Yes a agree. He was mised the MOST at Sunderland game. He is modern DM. Good at defending but still very quick and with good assists + strong on the ball. He will be soon in Brasil first 11. HE is a TOP TOP player and best Pellegrinis signing by FAR.

 

[100%blue]

Has there been any more news about what type of injury and how long he's likely to be out?.

 

[Rolee]

Milner did the job ok in the second half, although we could do with some more cover there

problem is that milner is not a play maker. he's more of a barn stormer.

fernandinho is a very interesting player. he has a bit of makalele inside him. a bit of scholes, busquets and senna. he is the deep lying play maker we have been missing.

He was Villas creative midfielder when he was there, he has got a good pass on him but he just doesn't have the same eye for a pass as people like fernandinho

Yes but in a more advanced role. I'm not sure he's cut out for a deep lying central role.

 

[che_don_john]

problem is that milner is not a play maker. he's more of a barn stormer.

fernandinho is a very interesting player. he has a bit of makalele inside him. a bit of scholes, busquets and senna. he is the deep lying play maker we have been missing.

He was Villas creative midfielder when he was there, he has got a good pass on him but he just doesn't have the same eye for a pass as people like fernandinho

Yes but in a more advanced role. I'm not sure he's cut out for a deep lying central role.

What Milner does well is he moves the ball quickly. That was something badly lacking in the first half; we were justtoo slow with the ball. Once Milner moved centrally we got started to get the ball into dangerous positions quickly (it's just a shame it usually fell to the headless chicken that is Navas).

I think if we'd started with him there, had a bit f urgency in the middle of the park, we might have got a better result. Tippy-tappy football looks nice but if it gives the opposition time to get 11 men behind the ball then it isn't going to be very effective. You've got to stretch out teams like that; it's not about being 'creative', it's about being direct and crisp with the ball.

 

[Utter bobbins]

He was Villas creative midfielder when he was there, he has got a good pass on him but he just doesn't have the same eye for a pass as people like fernandinho

Yes but in a more advanced role. I'm not sure he's cut out for a deep lying central role.

What Milner does well is he moves the ball quickly. That was something badly lacking in the first half; we were justtoo slow with the ball. Once Milner moved centrally we got started to get the ball into dangerous positions quickly (it's just a shame it usually fell to the headless chicken that is Navas).

I think if we'd started with him there, had a bit f urgency in the middle of the park, we might have got a better result. Tippy-tappy football looks nice but if it gives the opposition time to get 11 men behind the ball then it isn't going to be very effective. You've got to stretch out teams like that; it's not about being 'creative', it's about being direct and crisp with the ball.

Are you being serious

 

[che_don_john]

Yes but in a more advanced role. I'm not sure he's cut out for a deep lying central role.

What Milner does well is he moves the ball quickly. That was something badly lacking in the first half; we were justtoo slow with the ball. Once Milner moved centrally we got started to get the ball into dangerous positions quickly (it's just a shame it usually fell to the headless chicken that is Navas).

I think if we'd started with him there, had a bit f urgency in the middle of the park, we might have got a better result. Tippy-tappy football looks nice but if it gives the opposition time to get 11 men behind the ball then it isn't going to be very effective. You've got to stretch out teams like that; it's not about being 'creative', it's about being direct and crisp with the ball.

Are you being serious

Well, explain to me what's wrong with that assessment? I don't think I'm alone here in saying that our build up play was too slow, nor am I alone in rating Milner.

You're entitled to disagree with me, but at least try to give an account of why you think I'm wrong.

 

[grahamgor]

Very sorely missed at Sunderland where the disjointed first half performance resembled the early away games before Fernandinho had adjusted to Premiership pace.he's a great foil for Yaya, who isn't the same player without Dinho's athleticism to bolster his creativity. What's more, Dinho is a fully committed professional who turned down huge bonusses in the Ukraine for the chance to win medals with us. There's no like for like replacement and Garcia's -despite his effort and guts in soldiering on after larsson's ' tackle' - simply can't either think or move as fast as Dinho.

 

[Utter bobbins]

What Milner does well is he moves the ball quickly. That was something badly lacking in the first half; we were justtoo slow with the ball. Once Milner moved centrally we got started to get the ball into dangerous positions quickly (it's just a shame it usually fell to the headless chicken that is Navas).

I think if we'd started with him there, had a bit f urgency in the middle of the park, we might have got a better result. Tippy-tappy football looks nice but if it gives the opposition time to get 11 men behind the ball then it isn't going to be very effective. You've got to stretch out teams like that; it's not about being 'creative', it's about being direct and crisp with the ball.

Are you being serious

Well, explain to me what's wrong with that assessment? I don't think I'm alone here in saying that our build up play was too slow, nor am I alone in rating Milner.

You're entitled to disagree with me, but at least try to give an account of why you think I'm wrong.

When did Milner move the ball forward quickly on Sunday apart from hoofing two 40 yard passes straight down the centre halves throats. He needs 2 touches to bring the ball under control and I suspect he passed sidewise as much as Garcia. It was Demichelis getting the ball quickly to Navas. Milner was not the creator of anything positive on Sun but just gave the ball to Nasri and YaYa

 

[che_don_john]

Are you being serious

Well, explain to me what's wrong with that assessment? I don't think I'm alone here in saying that our build up play was too slow, nor am I alone in rating Milner.

You're entitled to disagree with me, but at least try to give an account of why you think I'm wrong.

When did Milner move the ball forward quickly on Sunday apart from hoofing two 40 yard passes straight down the centre halves throats. He needs 2 touches to bring the ball under control and I suspect he passed sidewise as much as Garcia. It was Demichelis getting the ball quickly to Navas. Milner was not the creator of anything positive on Sun but just gave the ball to Nasri and YaYa

The hoofing came in the last few minutes, as is expected. Up until that point, Milner was often finding Navas quickly. Maybe I'm recalling it wrong, but from what I remember, the first three opportunities when Navas got to the byline to cross the ball, came from Milner opening up his body and moving the ball out wide immediately. And aside from the Sunderland game, I think Milner has shown enough times that he's a quick and direct passer of the ball.

 

[Utter bobbins]

Well, explain to me what's wrong with that assessment? I don't think I'm alone here in saying that our build up play was too slow, nor am I alone in rating Milner.

You're entitled to disagree with me, but at least try to give an account of why you think I'm wrong.

When did Milner move the ball forward quickly on Sunday apart from hoofing two 40 yard passes straight down the centre halves throats. He needs 2 touches to bring the ball under control and I suspect he passed sidewise as much as Garcia. It was Demichelis getting the ball quickly to Navas. Milner was not the creator of anything positive on Sun but just gave the ball to Nasri and YaYa

The hoofing came in the last few minutes, as is expected. Up until that point, Milner was often finding Navas quickly. Maybe I'm recalling it wrong, but from what I remember, the first three opportunities when Navas got to the byline to cross the ball, came from Milner opening up his body and moving the ball out wide immediately. And aside from the Sunderland game, I think Milner has shown enough times that he's a quick and direct passer of the

Milner is typical English footballer has neither the technical ability or speed of thought to compete for a place in our midfield if you actually watch our build up play he often gets ignored by Silva YaYa Fernandinho and Nasri when playing and a last resort, he is on a completely different wave lengthy to the above

 

[NQCitizen]

Are you being serious

Well, explain to me what's wrong with that assessment? I don't think I'm alone here in saying that our build up play was too slow, nor am I alone in rating Milner.

You're entitled to disagree with me, but at least try to give an account of why you think I'm wrong.

When did Milner move the ball forward quickly on Sunday apart from hoofing two 40 yard passes straight down the centre halves throats. He needs 2 touches to bring the ball under control and I suspect he passed sidewise as much as Garcia. It was Demichelis getting the ball quickly to Navas. Milner was not the creator of anything positive on Sun but just gave the ball to Nasri and YaYa

Funny thing is if you hoof a ball at our centre backs we concede.

 

[Utter bobbins]

Well, explain to me what's wrong with that assessment? I don't think I'm alone here in saying that our build up play was too slow, nor am I alone in rating Milner.

You're entitled to disagree with me, but at least try to give an account of why you think I'm wrong.

When did Milner move the ball forward quickly on Sunday apart from hoofing two 40 yard passes straight down the centre halves throats. He needs 2 touches to bring the ball under control and I suspect he passed sidewise as much as Garcia. It was Demichelis getting the ball quickly to Navas. Milner was not the creator of anything positive on Sun but just gave the ball to Nasri and YaYa

Funny thing is if you hoof a ball at our centre backs we concede.

Very true but they had 2 British ones who are defenders, but not footballers

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

When did Milner move the ball forward quickly on Sunday apart from hoofing two 40 yard passes straight down the centre halves throats. He needs 2 touches to bring the ball under control and I suspect he passed sidewise as much as Garcia. It was Demichelis getting the ball quickly to Navas. Milner was not the creator of anything positive on Sun but just gave the ball to Nasri and YaYa

The hoofing came in the last few minutes, as is expected. Up until that point, Milner was often finding Navas quickly. Maybe I'm recalling it wrong, but from what I remember, the first three opportunities when Navas got to the byline to cross the ball, came from Milner opening up his body and moving the ball out wide immediately. And aside from the Sunderland game, I think Milner has shown enough times that he's a quick and direct passer of the

Milner is typical English footballer has neither the technical ability or speed of thought to compete for a place in our midfield if you actually watch our build up play he often gets ignored by Silva YaYa Fernandinho and Nasri when playing and a last resort, he is on a completely different wave lengthy to the above

Do you rate Garcia over him?

 

[dctid]

Well, explain to me what's wrong with that assessment? I don't think I'm alone here in saying that our build up play was too slow, nor am I alone in rating Milner.

You're entitled to disagree with me, but at least try to give an account of why you think I'm wrong.

When did Milner move the ball forward quickly on Sunday apart from hoofing two 40 yard passes straight down the centre halves throats. He needs 2 touches to bring the ball under control and I suspect he passed sidewise as much as Garcia. It was Demichelis getting the ball quickly to Navas. Milner was not the creator of anything positive on Sun but just gave the ball to Nasri and YaYa

The hoofing came in the last few minutes, as is expected. Up until that point, Milner was often finding Navas quickly. Maybe I'm recalling it wrong, but from what I remember, the first three opportunities when Navas got to the byline to cross the ball, came from Milner opening up his body and moving the ball out wide immediately. And aside from the Sunderland game, I think Milner has shown enough times that he's a quick and direct passer of the ball.

Agreed though Milner passed the ball much quicker and pushed further forward than Garcia

Dont understand the level of shit he gets if Yaya or Dinho out then surely to fucking god he is next in line for that midfield slot

 

[Utter bobbins]

The hoofing came in the last few minutes, as is expected. Up until that point, Milner was often finding Navas quickly. Maybe I'm recalling it wrong, but from what I remember, the first three opportunities when Navas got to the byline to cross the ball, came from Milner opening up his body and moving the ball out wide immediately. And aside from the Sunderland game, I think Milner has shown enough times that he's a quick and direct passer of the

Milner is typical English footballer has neither the technical ability or speed of thought to compete for a place in our midfield if you actually watch our build up play he often gets ignored by Silva YaYa Fernandinho and Nasri when playing and a last resort, he is on a completely different wave lengthy to the above

Do you rate Garcia over him?

Doesn't matter they both not good enough

 

[The Chief]

When did Milner move the ball forward quickly on Sunday apart from hoofing two 40 yard passes straight down the centre halves throats. He needs 2 touches to bring the ball under control and I suspect he passed sidewise as much as Garcia. It was Demichelis getting the ball quickly to Navas. Milner was not the creator of anything positive on Sun but just gave the ball to Nasri and YaYa

The hoofing came in the last few minutes, as is expected. Up until that point, Milner was often finding Navas quickly. Maybe I'm recalling it wrong, but from what I remember, the first three opportunities when Navas got to the byline to cross the ball, came from Milner opening up his body and moving the ball out wide immediately. And aside from the Sunderland game, I think Milner has shown enough times that he's a quick and direct passer of the ball.

Agreed though Milner passed the ball much quicker and pushed further forward than Garcia

Dont understand the level of shit he gets if Yaya or Dinho out then surely to fucking god he is next in line for that midfield slot

Nor me. Given a proper chance under the previous or current regime I reckon he could have proved his value in that position. He has differing attributes (positive & negative) to others in the centre and is a good option. He has the odd game or sub appearance in there and he's labelled rubbish. Any player needs a run of games in a position to prove their worth and frankly that's something Milner's never afforded.