OB1 said:Prestwich_Blue said:That's complete nonsense on every level. There were good reasons why we didn't sign the players Mancini supposedly wanted after we won the title, some of which were the direct responsibility of Mancini himself.VOOMER said:Yeah the one where these two twats sabotaged Bobby by doing fuck all to sign two player's we said from the of would effect the destination of the title. They and Khaldoon, wanted Bobby out of the way because they wanted a yes man and in Khaldoons case actually felt threatened by is relationship with the sheik.
And Khaldoon was Bobby's mate, not the Sheikh, and stuck up for him a few times against the Sheikh, who wasn't overly keen on him as manager (he preferred Mourinho). Mancini's fate was finally sealed when he went to Abu Dhabi after we'd played Newcastle and showed a distinct lack of respect to the Sheikh. Nothing was going to save him after that and the order was given to get rid.
Definitley nonsense on lots of levels; especially because they both joined City after the relevant transfer window closed.
Any links to this info?Prestwich_Blue said:That's complete nonsense on every level. There were good reasons why we didn't sign the players Mancini supposedly wanted after we won the title, some of which were the direct responsibility of Mancini himself.VOOMER said:Yeah the one where these two twats sabotaged Bobby by doing fuck all to sign two player's we said from the of would effect the destination of the title. They and Khaldoon, wanted Bobby out of the way because they wanted a yes man and in Khaldoons case actually felt threatened by is relationship with the sheik.
And Khaldoon was Bobby's mate, not the Sheikh, and stuck up for him a few times against the Sheikh, who wasn't overly keen on him as manager (he preferred Mourinho). Mancini's fate was finally sealed when he went to Abu Dhabi after we'd played Newcastle and showed a distinct lack of respect to the Sheikh. Nothing was going to save him after that and the order was given to get rid.
The cookie monster said:Any links to this info?Prestwich_Blue said:That's complete nonsense on every level. There were good reasons why we didn't sign the players Mancini supposedly wanted after we won the title, some of which were the direct responsibility of Mancini himself.VOOMER said:Yeah the one where these two twats sabotaged Bobby by doing fuck all to sign two player's we said from the of would effect the destination of the title. They and Khaldoon, wanted Bobby out of the way because they wanted a yes man and in Khaldoons case actually felt threatened by is relationship with the sheik.
And Khaldoon was Bobby's mate, not the Sheikh, and stuck up for him a few times against the Sheikh, who wasn't overly keen on him as manager (he preferred Mourinho). Mancini's fate was finally sealed when he went to Abu Dhabi after we'd played Newcastle and showed a distinct lack of respect to the Sheikh. Nothing was going to save him after that and the order was given to get rid.
Just for you...The cookie monster said:Any links to this info?Prestwich_Blue said:That's complete nonsense on every level. There were good reasons why we didn't sign the players Mancini supposedly wanted after we won the title, some of which were the direct responsibility of Mancini himself.VOOMER said:Yeah the one where these two twats sabotaged Bobby by doing fuck all to sign two player's we said from the of would effect the destination of the title. They and Khaldoon, wanted Bobby out of the way because they wanted a yes man and in Khaldoons case actually felt threatened by is relationship with the sheik.
And Khaldoon was Bobby's mate, not the Sheikh, and stuck up for him a few times against the Sheikh, who wasn't overly keen on him as manager (he preferred Mourinho). Mancini's fate was finally sealed when he went to Abu Dhabi after we'd played Newcastle and showed a distinct lack of respect to the Sheikh. Nothing was going to save him after that and the order was given to get rid.
How much longer until we can officially add Jovetic, Navas, Negredo, Willy, Sagna, Mangala, Fernando, Fernandinho to that list?, and Sanchez, Di Maria, Fabregas and possibly a Laporte/Varane/Hummels to the list we should of bought?Dribble said:TBF to TGR the 2 top class signings (RVP & Hazard) would have served us better immediately and in the long run than Sinclair, Rodwell, Nastasic, Maicon and Garcia. All but Sinclair & Nastasic have gone and those two would have gone if we'd had any takers this summer. The fact we either have, or are trying to jettision all 5 of them 2 years later shows what a right mess of that transfer window we made and might explains why Mancini and many fans were so pissed. As champions we should have turned the screw, but instead we allowed our main competitors to gain gound on us by the very fact that we stood still squad-wise.BlueMoonz1977 said:TGR said:Two top class signings instead of 4 or 5 mediocre wannabes or maybe's may have given us the improvement we need?
I agree but what would those top 2 signings have cost us in terms of sanctions, because the club obviously thought best against it in the end. We have effectively done a Liverpool in a way, spunked money on problem solving rather than bringing in the quality to push on.
Example, Jovetic is alright, but if you were Merlin or Nasri would you be actually thinking hold on a minute my place is in jeopardy - because I don't think they do.
I am hoping for changes this summer, those not good enough out, quality in plus I would like a couple of the eds lads brought in to liven it up
Even though it would never happen officially, if there was a poll amongst fans and we were told we only had £55m to spend that summer and it could either be spent on Sinclair, Rodwell, Nastasic, Maicon and Garcia or RVP & Hazard, I'd suspect we'd have all gone for RVP & Hazard. What on earth we were thinking buying Sinclair, Rodwell, Nastasic, Maicon and Garcia after buying the likes of Silva, Yaya, Aguero in previous seasons is beyond me and IMHO I reckon we're still counting the cost now.
FFP might have had an effect last summer and this, but the summer transfer window of 2012/13 will forever live on as one of our biggest fuck ups post Abu Dhabi takeover. In their defence, Soriano had just arrived and Txiki wasn't here then so who knows if they'd have sanctioned those disasterous purchases. Mancini publicly blamed Marwood and Sheikh Mansour called them both to Abu Dhabi and told them both to cool it and this proved to be the beginning of the end for Mancini.
But the fact remains we'd have been better off buying the quality additions to improve our squad rather than scrabbling about in the bargain basement bucket on deadline day and buying the dross we did.
That's a no then.Prestwich_Blue said:Just for you...The cookie monster said:Any links to this info?Prestwich_Blue said:That's complete nonsense on every level. There were good reasons why we didn't sign the players Mancini supposedly wanted after we won the title, some of which were the direct responsibility of Mancini himself.
And Khaldoon was Bobby's mate, not the Sheikh, and stuck up for him a few times against the Sheikh, who wasn't overly keen on him as manager (he preferred Mourinho). Mancini's fate was finally sealed when he went to Abu Dhabi after we'd played Newcastle and showed a distinct lack of respect to the Sheikh. Nothing was going to save him after that and the order was given to get rid.
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Tim of the Oak said:He didn't have to do a lot to get the Etihad deal or benefit from increased TV revenues. They are the two biggest reasons we are about to break even!
I'm sure these guys have done good work but Ferran has seen us fail FFP and we are a long way from having youth players in the first team (never mind home grown).
Mister Appointment said:Tim of the Oak said:He didn't have to do a lot to get the Etihad deal or benefit from increased TV revenues. They are the two biggest reasons we are about to break even!
I'm sure these guys have done good work but Ferran has seen us fail FFP and we are a long way from having youth players in the first team (never mind home grown).
When the next figures are released you should look at our total commercial income. Yes we have lots of Abu Dhabi based sponsorship deals, however we have a growing portfolio of deals which have nothing to do with AD.
Ferran hasn't seen us fail FFP, that's probably up there with one of the most stupid things i've seen posted on this forum in a long time. Ferran was brought in because FFP was introduced and it became clear that City needed to find a way to grow their commercial business to offset the 400 million or so that Hughes and Mancini spent.
Not sure why you've chosen to put that bit about youth players in. A youth system, a successful one anyway, will be developed over a decade, not over a few months.
Such a shame that basically most of the criticism that I read in this thread should be rewritten as "they sacked Mancini I hate them" because that's all it boils down to for you and one or two others. It's a bit fucking tragic if you ask me.