FFP facing legal challenge (updated pg 12)

[cleavers]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Remember when i said this -

From what I understand of EU law any EU citizen or business can ask for an investigation into such business practices.

Just a few pages back.

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Now we have

In conformity with article 101.2 of the Treaties of the European Union, the complainant requests the European Commission to declare that the Break-even rule is null.

***walks away whislting merrily***

Yes ;)

What about the premier FFP would same rules apply?

As we're part of the EU, you would imagine that any ruling would apply.


Not that it matters to us, as we'll comply anyway soon enough.

 

[fbloke]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Remember when i said this -

From what I understand of EU law any EU citizen or business can ask for an investigation into such business practices.

Just a few pages back.

<a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=280291&start=40" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=1&t=280291&start=40</a>

Now we have

In conformity with article 101.2 of the Treaties of the European Union, the complainant requests the European Commission to declare that the Break-even rule is null.

***walks away whislting merrily***

Yes ;)

What about the premier FFP would same rules apply?

From what I've read if a UEFA wide FFP was declared illegal under EU law any subsidiary national version would also be deemed illegal too.

 

[waspish]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Cheers...

Should we test the water and spend 200m this summer

 

[BlueAnorak]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Daniel Striani is an agent for the company: MAD Management (full title "SPRL MAD Management" - SPRL meaning "limited company" in Belgium).
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Interestingly he doesn't seem to have any players against his name a similar name or against the company or a similar company name on any of the online football player information web sites.

 

[fbloke]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Cheers...

Should we test the water and spend 200m this summer

The problem UEFA now face is what it may cost them in fines/claims from affected clubs if they impose limits ahead of any verdict.

The best result for UEFA right now would be to suspend FFP.

 

[waspish]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Cheers...

Should we test the water and spend 200m this summer

The problem UEFA now face is what it may cost them in fines/claims from affected clubs if they impose limits ahead of any verdict.

The best result for UEFA right now would be to suspend FFP.

Am I right in saying we still don't know the exact punishments from breaking FFPR

 

[fbloke]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Cheers...

Should we test the water and spend 200m this summer

The problem UEFA now face is what it may cost them in fines/claims from affected clubs if they impose limits ahead of any verdict.

The best result for UEFA right now would be to suspend FFP.

Am I right in saying we still don't know the exact punishments from breaking FFPR

There is no set tariff as far as I am aware.

Which makes you wonder why that is the case.

 

[paulchapo]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

I sincerely hope it gets blown into outer space A.S.A.P by someone with the bollocks to take them on.It sickens me how the rags and Spurs and Arsenal,not to mention the dippers,don't like it now their cosy little cartel has been breached and want to change the rules to suit them.

Surely it could be challenged just on the basis that it is unfair because clubs with bigger stadiums will generate more revenue,in itself unfair competition?

 

[fbloke]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

There will be a series of challenges to FFP by different groups affected in different ways.

As I just tweeted - imagine a club in need of investment proving that that investment was not forthcoming because of the limits to ROI caused by FFPR and UEFA's anti-competitive stance?

That would surely kill it off under EU law and wont be difficult to prove.

All it takes is a club/owner/fans with motivation to take on the fight.

 

[squirtyflower]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

The problem UEFA now face is what it may cost them in fines/claims from affected clubs if they impose limits ahead of any verdict.

The best result for UEFA right now would be to suspend FFP.

Am I right in saying we still don't know the exact punishments from breaking FFPR

There is no set tariff as far as I am aware.

Which makes you wonder why that is the case.

because it will depend on how you have breached it but, more importantly, who you are

 

[fbloke]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Am I right in saying we still don't know the exact punishments from breaking FFPR

There is no set tariff as far as I am aware.

Which makes you wonder why that is the case.

because it will depend on how you have breached it but, more importantly, who you are

Some would argue that a material breach should be treated the same irrespective of the reasons otherwise you create further grey areas.

 

[squirtyflower]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

There is no set tariff as far as I am aware.

Which makes you wonder why that is the case.

because it will depend on how you have breached it but, more importantly, who you are

Some would argue that a material breach should be treated the same irrespective of the reasons otherwise you create further grey areas.

i think from the way some clubs have been treated by UEFA in the past then if, for example, Anzi and Milan were to breach in the same way I believe the russians would be a little worse off

 

[fbloke]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

because it will depend on how you have breached it but, more importantly, who you are

Some would argue that a material breach should be treated the same irrespective of the reasons otherwise you create further grey areas.

i think from the way some clubs have been treated by UEFA in the past then if, for example, Anzi and Milan were to breach in the same way I believe the russians would be a little worse off

Perhaps explains why certain sponsors with club interests are no investing in UEFA competitions?

 

[squirtyflower]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Some would argue that a material breach should be treated the same irrespective of the reasons otherwise you create further grey areas.

i think from the way some clubs have been treated by UEFA in the past then if, for example, Anzi and Milan were to breach in the same way I believe the russians would be a little worse off

Perhaps explains why certain sponsors with club interests are no investing in UEFA competitions?

such as?

 

[fbloke]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

i think from the way some clubs have been treated by UEFA in the past then if, for example, Anzi and Milan were to breach in the same way I believe the russians would be a little worse off

Perhaps explains why certain sponsors with club interests are no investing in UEFA competitions?

such as?

Gazprom and Qatar (in the wider footballing sense) spring to mind.

 

[squirtyflower]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Perhaps explains why certain sponsors with club interests are no investing in UEFA competitions?

such as?

Gazprom and Qatar (in the wider footballing sense) spring to mind.

should that have been a 'now'?

also ties in with the two world cups offered out

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

such as?

Gazprom and Qatar (in the wider footballing sense) spring to mind.

should that have been a 'now'?

also ties in with the two world cups offered out

this.

 

[fbloke]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

such as?

Gazprom and Qatar (in the wider footballing sense) spring to mind.

should that have been a 'now'?

also ties in with the two world cups offered out

Yes it should have been.

 

[squirtyflower]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

Gazprom and Qatar (in the wider footballing sense) spring to mind.

should that have been a 'now'?

also ties in with the two world cups offered out

Yes it should have been.

of course we are not suggesting that two huge marketing campaigns producing massive profits in UEFA would have even the tiniest impact on how a UEFA member would vote at FIFA?

 

[fbloke]

Re: Wall St Journal Article on FFP

should that have been a 'now'?

also ties in with the two world cups offered out

Yes it should have been.

of course we are not suggesting that two huge marketing campaigns producing massive profits in UEFA would have even the tiniest impact on how a UEFA member would vote at FIFA?

Nor would anyone suggest that the implied loss of such revenues would be a lever used to apply pressure to UEFA.

That would be wrong.