Irwell said:Which is why I tried to state that my posts weren't meant as a slight against PB, rather against those fawning over his posts and quoting things he has said as if they are fact.Shadz69 said:Each and every time PB got something wrong he explained himself.He has consistently gone out of his way to try and help others understand the intricecies of this clusterfuck.He also has said all along a lot of his conclusions were based on guesstamations so he is pretty transparent in his reasons for posting what he does,trying to help other City fans understand what is going on.I don't mind if someone gets stuff a little off once they explain themselves.
I think this is the crux of my disagreement really. He might have an understanding of FFP, but my personal opinion is that he is not the most knowledgeable person on the forum in regard to FFP. Multiple times his opinion has been proven to be wrong and those of others has proven to be right whilst one of the more knowledgeable people who has been on here was ridiculed and hounded out because his opinion wasn't what we wanted to hear. He was wrong on some things too, nobody is perfect, but why would you spend your own valuable time debating with people who are just seeking to discredit you?Ducado said:Maybe one day you might offer as much to the forum as PB does, I know he has taken a large part of his own time researching this matter, and is certainley the most well informed member of this forum of matter FFP,
While I'd also like to see someone take UEFA and the cartel to the cleaners I think our participation in the proceedings will be based on our position at the time rather than our interpretation of good and bad. We too might want to prevent others joining the clique.TrueBlue1705 said:If Dupont wins his case vs FFP in 2015 then we can sue the cunts anyway - I would like to think that we would go to town on UEFA if that were the case but realistically I think our owers are too much of gentlemen and would just put it behind them!!
The other threads I choose to post on have little bearing on my opinions unless in some way you feel that an interest in one subject means that you can't have an opinion on another. It seems a somewhat flawed argument to me.CheethamHillBlue said:No disrespect to you, Irwell but i'd rather read what Prestwich Blue has to say about Club Finance/FFP etc than read criticism from someone who makes about 90% of their posts on the 'Name That Tune' thread.
Which is why I have nothing against him or what he posts. Quite the opposite, I find them interesting and thought-provoking. What I find unfortunate is that others have had opinions that were equally as interesting and thought-provoking but they are drowned out or hounded out in favour of a person whose interpretations have previously turned out to be incorrect. Sure, they fit the 'City Against The World' narrative, but that doesn't make them right.CheethamHillBlue said:He doesn't always say it's 100% definite but generally, it's informed opinion. UEFA moving goalposts doesn't necessarily make PB wrong.
wayne71 said:After spending months reading what the so called ITK posters said regarding FFP I've come to the conclusion you have about as much clue as the rest of us. Stop talking shit.
If you're talking about Ed Thompson, the guy who blogged that we deliberately set out to fail FFP (which we didn't) that the Etihad deal would be disallowed (which it wasn't), that the fine would be deducted from our income for FFP (which it won't), that didn't understand that a related party transaction wasn't a UEFA invention (which it isn't) then you've placed your bet on the wrong horse.Irwell said:The other threads I choose to post on have little bearing on my opinions unless in some way you feel that an interest in one subject means that you can't have an opinion on another. It seems a somewhat flawed argument to me.CheethamHillBlue said:No disrespect to you, Irwell but i'd rather read what Prestwich Blue has to say about Club Finance/FFP etc than read criticism from someone who makes about 90% of their posts on the 'Name That Tune' thread.
Which is why I have nothing against him or what he posts. Quite the opposite, I find them interesting and thought-provoking. What I find unfortunate is that others have had opinions that were equally as interesting and thought-provoking but they are drowned out or hounded out in favour of a person whose interpretations have previously turned out to be incorrect. Sure, they fit the 'City Against The World' narrative, but that doesn't make them right.CheethamHillBlue said:He doesn't always say it's 100% definite but generally, it's informed opinion. UEFA moving goalposts doesn't necessarily make PB wrong.
But if FFP is thrown out, the protection it offers to the big clubs (and by that time, us by extension) will have disappeared. At that point, we might as well get our money back.East Level 2 said:While I'd also like to see someone take UEFA and the cartel to the cleaners I think our participation in the proceedings will be based on our position at the time rather than our interpretation of good and bad. We too might want to prevent others joining the clique.TrueBlue1705 said:If Dupont wins his case vs FFP in 2015 then we can sue the cunts anyway - I would like to think that we would go to town on UEFA if that were the case but realistically I think our owers are too much of gentlemen and would just put it behind them!!
Irwell said:The other threads I choose to post on have little bearing on my opinions unless in some way you feel that an interest in one subject means that you can't have an opinion on another. It seems a somewhat flawed argument to me.CheethamHillBlue said:No disrespect to you, Irwell but i'd rather read what Prestwich Blue has to say about Club Finance/FFP etc than read criticism from someone who makes about 90% of their posts on the 'Name That Tune' thread.