FIFA World rankings?

[BoyBlue_1985]

Okay easy challenge this, name me 19 better sides than England at the moment?

Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Holland, Portugal, Uruguay, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Russia...

Those are 11 I can think of(not in order) which would see England 12th. England imo belong with the likes of Denmark, Czech Republic, Croatia, Russia, Chile, Sweden, Greece, etc. and not the big boys, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Italy, France, Portugal, etc.

Until England finally beat one of the big teams when it counts, they'll always be between 8th and 12th in my book.

So, not only do you put Russia (who couldn't qualify from a group with Poland, Grece & Cczech Republic in it) and Chile in the top 11, you then have them in the next batch of teams similar to us? Riiiiight.

Chile? Don't make me laugh. So they're having a decent qualifying campaign. Look at their World Cup history, it's worse than ours.

I'd have us 9th to be honest, but at the end of the day, it's results which cement your position, not how attractive the football is.

We finished unbeaten in qualifying, we finished unbeaten in Euro 2012 bar a Pen shoot out. We beat Spain a few months back, we've beat Sweden twice in 6 months.

We may not pass it around like Spain, counter like Germany or have individual brilliance like Portugal & Argentina, but we get results. So we haven't won a tournament for fucking donkeys years? Neither have Portugal, Holland & Argentina.

Stop the hatred you have for England getting in the way of a sensible point.

Top 4, I agree, technically, we shouldn't be there. But there's a reason why we are there and that's down to winning games.

Only in games against Spain, Germany, Brazil and to a lesser extent Holland, Italy & Portugal would I go into a game with them thinking, "Yep, we'll get beat here". If we were to play France, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile or Russia, I would generally give us a decent chance of winning.

Holland just about beat a STUART PEARCE youth team when we played them

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Holland, Portugal, Uruguay, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Russia...

Those are 11 I can think of(not in order) which would see England 12th. England imo belong with the likes of Denmark, Czech Republic, Croatia, Russia, Chile, Sweden, Greece, etc. and not the big boys, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Italy, France, Portugal, etc.

Until England finally beat one of the big teams when it counts, they'll always be between 8th and 12th in my book.

So, not only do you put Russia (who couldn't qualify from a group with Poland, Grece & Cczech Republic in it) and Chile in the top 11, you then have them in the next batch of teams similar to us? Riiiiight.

Chile? Don't make me laugh. So they're having a decent qualifying campaign. Look at their World Cup history, it's worse than ours.

I'd have us 9th to be honest, but at the end of the day, it's results which cement your position, not how attractive the football is.

We finished unbeaten in qualifying, we finished unbeaten in Euro 2012 bar a Pen shoot out. We beat Spain a few months back, we've beat Sweden twice in 6 months.

We may not pass it around like Spain, counter like Germany or have individual brilliance like Portugal & Argentina, but we get results. So we haven't won a tournament for fucking donkeys years? Neither have Portugal, Holland & Argentina.

Stop the hatred you have for England getting in the way of a sensible point.

Top 4, I agree, technically, we shouldn't be there. But there's a reason why we are there and that's down to winning games.

Only in games against Spain, Germany, Brazil and to a lesser extent Holland, Italy & Portugal would I go into a game with them thinking, "Yep, we'll get beat here". If we were to play France, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile or Russia, I would generally give us a decent chance of winning.

Holland just about beat a STUART PEARCE youth team when we played them

That's why I put, "To a lesser extent".

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

So, not only do you put Russia (who couldn't qualify from a group with Poland, Grece & Cczech Republic in it) and Chile in the top 11, you then have them in the next batch of teams similar to us? Riiiiight.

Chile? Don't make me laugh. So they're having a decent qualifying campaign. Look at their World Cup history, it's worse than ours.

I'd have us 9th to be honest, but at the end of the day, it's results which cement your position, not how attractive the football is.

We finished unbeaten in qualifying, we finished unbeaten in Euro 2012 bar a Pen shoot out. We beat Spain a few months back, we've beat Sweden twice in 6 months.

We may not pass it around like Spain, counter like Germany or have individual brilliance like Portugal & Argentina, but we get results. So we haven't won a tournament for fucking donkeys years? Neither have Portugal, Holland & Argentina.

Stop the hatred you have for England getting in the way of a sensible point.

Top 4, I agree, technically, we shouldn't be there. But there's a reason why we are there and that's down to winning games.

Only in games against Spain, Germany, Brazil and to a lesser extent Holland, Italy & Portugal would I go into a game with them thinking, "Yep, we'll get beat here". If we were to play France, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile or Russia, I would generally give us a decent chance of winning.

Holland just about beat a STUART PEARCE youth team when we played them

That's why I put, "To a lesser extent".

I know you agree with me people will write some serious crap when they talk about England. They would be great at The Sun

 

[Franny Lee's Barrel Chest]

Same old story, same old ridiculous replies.

England have just been knocked out on pens in a knockout stage of a major tournament which they qualified for by being undefeated in their Group stage which they qualified for by being undefeated in their qualifying group.

1 defeat in 17 games in a period that included a win against the side ranked number one.

Are they the 4th best team in the world? No but then are Chelsea the best team in Europe? It's all about results and England get results that keeps them at the top end of the rankings.

This is technically completely correct although it's my opinion that we are ranked so highly because of our ability to win plenty of meaningless friendlies against top teams, most notably Spain recently. We'd have been murdered if we'd played them in the tournament. Whilst FIFA rankings do reflect the status of the games played, ie friendlies not counting as much as tournament games, the fact remains that we play so many of the damn things it's not surprising that we're ranked so highly. Can anyone tell me where England were just prior to Euro 96 when we didn't play any qualifying games?

Edit: Brasil will go further down with not having to qualify for the WC in 2014.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Same old story, same old ridiculous replies.

England have just been knocked out on pens in a knockout stage of a major tournament which they qualified for by being undefeated in their Group stage which they qualified for by being undefeated in their qualifying group.

1 defeat in 17 games in a period that included a win against the side ranked number one.

Are they the 4th best team in the world? No but then are Chelsea the best team in Europe? It's all about results and England get results that keeps them at the top end of the rankings.

This is technically completely correct although it's my opinion that we are ranked so highly because of our ability to win plenty of meaningless friendlies against top teams, most notably Spain recently. We'd have been murdered if we'd played them in the tournament. Whilst FIFA rankings do reflect the status of the games played, ie friendlies not counting as much as tournament games, the fact remains that we play so many of the damn things it's not surprising that we're ranked so highly. Can anyone tell me where England were just prior to Euro 96 when we didn't play any qualifying games?

Edit: Brasil will go further down with not having to qualify for the WC in 2014.

Haven't we only lost 1 match in the last 2 Qualifying stages for major competitions
I do try and help you people with this friendly malarky, WHEN ENGLAND PLAY A FRIENDLY GO AND CHECK WHERE THE REST OF OUR INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS ARE

PLAYING FUCKING FRINDLIES
IT IS NOT A MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ENGLAND THING

 

[jonmcity]

How the hell are England ranked 4th.

They just cut the sentence short = England are ranked 4th from bottom

 

[maccadon]

Scotland should be number 1.We haven't bothered with the world cup or euros for years.

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

Same old story, same old ridiculous replies.

England have just been knocked out on pens in a knockout stage of a major tournament which they qualified for by being undefeated in their Group stage which they qualified for by being undefeated in their qualifying group.

1 defeat in 17 games in a period that included a win against the side ranked number one.

Are they the 4th best team in the world? No but then are Chelsea the best team in Europe? It's all about results and England get results that keeps them at the top end of the rankings.

This is technically completely correct although it's my opinion that we are ranked so highly because of our ability to win plenty of meaningless friendlies against top teams, most notably Spain recently. We'd have been murdered if we'd played them in the tournament. Whilst FIFA rankings do reflect the status of the games played, ie friendlies not counting as much as tournament games, the fact remains that we play so many of the damn things it's not surprising that we're ranked so highly. Can anyone tell me where England were just prior to Euro 96 when we didn't play any qualifying games?

Edit: Brasil will go further down with not having to qualify for the WC in 2014.

Haven't we only lost 1 match in the last 2 Qualifying stages for major competitions
I do try and help you people with this friendly malarky, WHEN ENGLAND PLAY A FRIENDLY GO AND CHECK WHERE THE REST OF OUR INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS ARE

PLAYING FUCKING FRINDLIES
IT IS NOT A MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ENGLAND THING

Forget it, mate.

Don't argue with the stupid.

 

[maccadon]

They are very lucky to be ranked so high.
If they were say ranked between 10th and 20th, (which is probably thier level, even in the friendlies they scraped home 1-0 v Belgium and Norway, they were lucky to win and the worst side), then they would be in pot 2 for qaulifying groups amd would face a tough challenge to qualify

Okay easy challenge this, name me 19 better sides than England at the moment?

Argentina
Spain
Italy
Portugal
France
Germany
Brazil
Greece
Czech Republic
Cameroon
Denmark
Belgium
Romania
Ivory Coast

only 14 but all in all closer to 20 than 4th

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

They are very lucky to be ranked so high.
If they were say ranked between 10th and 20th, (which is probably thier level, even in the friendlies they scraped home 1-0 v Belgium and Norway, they were lucky to win and the worst side), then they would be in pot 2 for qaulifying groups amd would face a tough challenge to qualify

Okay easy challenge this, name me 19 better sides than England at the moment?

Argentina
Spain
Italy
Portugal
France
Germany
Brazil
Greece
Czech Republic
Cameroon
Denmark
Belgium
Romania
Ivory Coast

only 14 but all in all closer to 20 than 4th

Fucking deary me, im not even going to bother trying to argue that out with you