FIFA World rankings?

maccadon said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
hertsblue said:
They are very lucky to be ranked so high.
If they were say ranked between 10th and 20th, (which is probably thier level, even in the friendlies they scraped home 1-0 v Belgium and Norway, they were lucky to win and the worst side), then they would be in pot 2 for qaulifying groups amd would face a tough challenge to qualify

Okay easy challenge this, name me 19 better sides than England at the moment?

Argentina
Spain
Italy
Portugal
France
Germany
Brazil
Greece
Czech Republic
Cameroon
Denmark
Belgium
Romania
Ivory Coast

only 14 but all in all closer to 20 than 4th
You must be joking
 
It amazes me that people have no problem with most of the other countries positions yet have a problem with England's. They use the exact same point system you know!

England, one of the top 4 footballing nations in the world. I can live with that.
 
Challenger1978 said:
maccadon said:

Get of the drugs then kid its doing you no good.

Its truly terrifying. Its obvious he is Scottish, Irish or Welsh and uses hatred as an irrational basis of ranking and if he is English he needs weaning off LSD and crack because that list is quite frankly absurd
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Challenger1978 said:
maccadon said:

Get of the drugs then kid its doing you no good.

Its truly terrifying. Its obvious he is Scottish, Irish or Welsh and uses hatred as an irrational basis of ranking and if he is English he needs weaning off LSD and crack because that list is quite frankly absurd

explain ? no hatred at all.just my opinion.
 
maccadon said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
hertsblue said:
They are very lucky to be ranked so high.
If they were say ranked between 10th and 20th, (which is probably thier level, even in the friendlies they scraped home 1-0 v Belgium and Norway, they were lucky to win and the worst side), then they would be in pot 2 for qaulifying groups amd would face a tough challenge to qualify

Okay easy challenge this, name me 19 better sides than England at the moment?

Argentina
Spain
Italy
Portugal
France
Germany
Brazil
Greece
Czech Republic
Cameroon
Denmark
Belgium
Romania
Ivory Coast

only 14 but all in all closer to 20 than 4th

England are shite, but to say Greece, Czech Republic, Cameroon, Denmark, Romania and Ivory Coast are better is fucking ridiculous.

For me the top 10 should be like this:

1. Spain
2. Brazil
3. Germany
4. Uruguay
5. Argentina
6. Italy
7. Portugal
8. Netherlands
9. France
10. England
 
doesn't explain my apparent hatred.

greece have won the euros in recent years for starters.
 
maccadon said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Challenger1978 said:
Get of the drugs then kid its doing you no good.

Its truly terrifying. Its obvious he is Scottish, Irish or Welsh and uses hatred as an irrational basis of ranking and if he is English he needs weaning off LSD and crack because that list is quite frankly absurd

explain ? no hatred at all.just my opinion.

Yes but your opinion is based on no fact at all.

Romania - seriously!
Czech Republic - Are gash and shocked themselves getting out of the group in Euro's
Ivory Coast -Some Good players (1 Great) but they are really quite poor
Belgium - See above
Cameroon - Not in the last 15 years
Greece - What??
Denmark - They are okay, better than England? No
France - Maybe not really better than England though

The rest i would give you but i still think we could beat Argentina, Italy and Portugal in a game
Germany would kill us<br /><br />-- Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:00 pm --<br /><br />
maccadon said:
doesn't explain my apparent hatred.

greece have won the euros in recent years for starters.

recent years being 8 years ago

I was still a teenager when they won the Euros mate
 
sjk2008 said:
Jackson-ctid said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Okay easy challenge this, name me 19 better sides than England at the moment?

Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Holland, Portugal, Uruguay, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Russia...

Those are 11 I can think of(not in order) which would see England 12th. England imo belong with the likes of Denmark, Czech Republic, Croatia, Russia, Chile, Sweden, Greece, etc. and not the big boys, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Italy, France, Portugal, etc.

Until England finally beat one of the big teams when it counts, they'll always be between 8th and 12th in my book.

So, not only do you put Russia (who couldn't qualify from a group with Poland, Grece & Cczech Republic in it) and Chile in the top 11, you then have them in the next batch of teams similar to us? Riiiiight.

Chile? Don't make me laugh. So they're having a decent qualifying campaign. Look at their World Cup history, it's worse than ours.

I'd have us 9th to be honest, but at the end of the day, it's results which cement your position, not how attractive the football is.

We finished unbeaten in qualifying, we finished unbeaten in Euro 2012 bar a Pen shoot out. We beat Spain a few months back, we've beat Sweden twice in 6 months.

We may not pass it around like Spain, counter like Germany or have individual brilliance like Portugal & Argentina, but we get results. So we haven't won a tournament for fucking donkeys years? Neither have Portugal, Holland & Argentina.

Stop the hatred you have for England getting in the way of a sensible point.

Top 4, I agree, technically, we shouldn't be there. But there's a reason why we are there and that's down to winning games.

Only in games against Spain, Germany, Brazil and to a lesser extent Holland, Italy & Portugal would I go into a game with them thinking, "Yep, we'll get beat here". If we were to play France, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile or Russia, I would generally give us a decent chance of winning.

I don't have any hatred for England, I like to see my club players doing well, I willed England on this summer, I wanted them to beat France, get out of their group, I even wanted them to beat Italy. If you'll read again, I said I believe England are between 8th and 12th and I'm not basing these teams performances on their previous 4 games but the way they have played as a whole.

12th is perhaps harsh, but Chile played well in the World Cup and Russia reached the semi finals of the last euros and they played some really nice football at this years competition and fatigue is what got the better of them.(some of their domestic players have played 2 back to back seasons, I think they're midfield trio played something like 220 games between them)
 

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