Football Leaks/Der Spiegel articles

[bugsyblue]

I do wish that as a club we would be more robust to deal with this shit, the silence is deafening at times.
We should also start to ban these journos who are happy to eat our sandwiches and enjoy wonderful hospitality yet are more than happy to put the dagger into us at any opportunity. BBC seem to be one of the worst.
I'm fed up at the constant hatchet job on the club I love, it's disgraceful.

But if the allegations are true...

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Who's that?
(Genuinely, I don't know who you mean)

@gordondaviesmoustache

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Spot on Bobby

How is it spot on. If the person you send an email, letter, text , NDA, agreement , what’s app chooses to share it publicly how is that city’s fault?

In onuhas case she leaked it not city.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

How is it spot on. If the person you send an email, letter, text , NDA, agreement , what’s app chooses to share it publicly how is that city’s fault?

In onuhas case she leaked it not city.

You just don’t write down that level of detail. There is always a snake in the grass somewhere looking to exploit information. It’s not Marquis of Queensberry rules

 

[MillionMilesAway]

@gordondaviesmoustache

Thanks, didn't know he was (I'd guessed you meant him, but thought I'd let you tell me).

I explained my thinking a bit later, (essentially that any payment and a signed contract with the club may be too far removed from each other to be linkable, albeit written differently) but I'm aware my thinking may be wrong.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

Someone please educate me about Der Spiegel. What exactly is it? Is it a newspaper? A magazine? Daily, weekly, monthly? Is it something akin to Wikileaks? Is it one of those small circulation publications which appeals to a small selection of the public who happen to smell a rat with everything, such as Private Eye which in it's early days was regularly getting sued [but somehow surviving]? Is it printed in English and if so, where can it be found?

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

How is it spot on. If the person you send an email, letter, text , NDA, agreement , what’s app chooses to share it publicly how is that city’s fault?

In onuhas case she leaked it not city.

There must have been a data breach at City. The emails were either leaked by someone at the club or by one of our close partners, or they were hacked. The person identified as being involved with Der Spiegl was arrested on unrelated financial charges but has previously been implicated in hacking.
The Onuoha case is different (Garry Cook copied her in on his tactless reply to someone else) but it shows a general culture at City of not being robust with confidential data. It should never have happened.

 

[nmc]

Someone please educate me about Der Spiegel. What exactly is it? Is it a newspaper? A magazine? Daily, weekly, monthly? Is it something akin to Wikileaks? Is it one of those small circulation publications which appeals to a small selection of the public who happen to smell a rat with everything, such as Private Eye which in it's early days was regularly getting sued [but somehow surviving]? Is it printed in English and if so, where can it be found?

Weekly news magazine - printed in Germany - in German. Don’t think you can get it in English but you can get it on line. It’s a bit more upmarket than Private Eye - but looks to be investigative and has uncovered a lot of scandals and misdemeanours. More recently stands accused of telling a few porkies but I think that’s limited to one journalist. Heavily involved in WikiLeaks and aligns itself with the NY Times and the Guardian - so quite progressive. Hope that helps...

 

[pavelsrnicek]

If the contract is void from the outset, its clauses carry zero force, surely.

My original post was probably not very well worded. A contract that arises from illegality is void ab ignitio, such as an unwritten employment contract where the employee is paid cash in hand. I’m 99% certain that is not an enforceable contract, irrespective of whatever boiler plate clauses are inserted. I’m pretty sure the same applies in relation to contracts that are formed via fraud. Any other position would surely be untenable for public policy reasons.

I’m no expert in contract law btw, so happy to be pointed in the right direction if I’m wrong and I’m certainly not saying this ‘contract’ is or isn’t illegal!

I think that could definitely apply to Sancho’s contract with City. However Dortmund and City have an agreement that ensured City released Sancho’s registration. I would have thought the terms of that agreement, which are not based on the terms of the original contract between Sancho and City, instead based on the terms around the transfer of registration are enforceable.

 

[balotellishaircut]

I do wish that as a club we would be more robust to deal with this shit, the silence is deafening at times.
We should also start to ban these journos who are happy to eat our sandwiches and enjoy wonderful hospitality yet are more than happy to put the dagger into us at any opportunity. BBC seem to be one of the worst.
I'm fed up at the constant hatchet job on the club I love, it's disgraceful.

The gutter press want a reaction from City, but however hard it is for us fans to read this shit, City are doing the right thing by keeping quiet. We are imo getting under there skin by not reacting, I can put up with it now, where as before id fly off the handle, I simple don't buy papers, listen to talksport or radio 5live.

If we got into "we did" you did" argument with the press, we would lose our focus to win trophies.