For those who booed when Elano was replaced

[dannybcity]

As for it working, yes we were able to score a breakaway goal against the team with the worst record in the league. Of course the countless times it hasn't worked have to be glossed over.

Just aswell we were playing the team with the worst record in the league then. Just admit it was the right decision at the right time.

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

As for it working, yes we were able to score a breakaway goal against the team with the worst record in the league. Of course the countless times it hasn't worked have to be glossed over.

Just aswell we were playing the team with the worst record in the league then. Just admit it was the right decision at the right time.

No it was a crap decision that didn't backfire(for once).

 

[dannybcity]

As for it working, yes we were able to score a breakaway goal against the team with the worst record in the league. Of course the countless times it hasn't worked have to be glossed over.

Just aswell we were playing the team with the worst record in the league then. Just admit it was the right decision at the right time.

No it was a crap decision that didn't backfire(for once).

OK, whatever you say.

 

[Bluemoon115]

As for it working, yes we were able to score a breakaway goal against the team with the worst record in the league. Of course the countless times it hasn't worked have to be glossed over.

Just aswell we were playing the team with the worst record in the league then. Just admit it was the right decision at the right time.

No it was a crap decision that didn't backfire(for once).

LOL, it hurts you when Hughes gets things right doesn't it?

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

Not at all, love it when things go well, I even loved it when Alan Ball got things right(actually check that "I would have loved it if Alan Ball had got anything right!).

 

[bluepeter62]

Bigga

This doesn't excuse the booing. Furthermore, how can it be helpful to make such an issue of the alleged MH-Elano battle of wills? In the end, they are both employees of the club who should just get on with it, as we should get on with supporting them. Everything else is simply irrelevant gossip.

I understand what you're saying, but the obvious lack of professionalism in putting out the best team, over pride, has finally got on the fans wicks! I do understand that irrelevant and stupid to boo NOW, but I don't think the fans can forgive past discrepancies where the Hughes/ Elano saga, is involved.

It's got a feel of 'too little too late' where Hughes is concerned.

What saga? Elano had a fit of pique because he wasn't being selected and did an interview with Sky telling of his frustration at not playing. Hughes had a word and then said that it was resolved.

Now the only time I have ever seen it brought up is on forums like this by people guessing rather than from anything factual.

I don't believe that Hughes has ever left him out because of his attitude, but because of him preferring the 2 defensive midfielders and the form of Ireland. Now this is obviously open to debate whether he is right or wrong, but at the end of the day its his job on the line.

Personally I don't believe there is any feud between them. As for yesterday, I too thought it was the wrong substitution at the time. Now having reflected on it, I can see why he done it, because both Zabaleta and kmpany where also struggling. The alternative was to bring Petrov on and move Robinho to the right, who I thought at he time was also beginning to struggle having put in a shift throughout the game.

 

[sboroMCFC]

People seem to be forgetting the fact that he brought Fernandes on to play right midfield. I can understand it if Elano was injured and we had no other options, but otherwise it was a completely stupid decision. Not the first time either, remember when he played Gelson right back against Liverpool? That worked well...

 

[Rammy Blue]

Bigga

This doesn't excuse the booing. Furthermore, how can it be helpful to make such an issue of the alleged MH-Elano battle of wills? In the end, they are both employees of the club who should just get on with it, as we should get on with supporting them. Everything else is simply irrelevant gossip.

I understand what you're saying, but the obvious lack of professionalism in putting out the best team, over pride, has finally got on the fans wicks! I do understand that irrelevant and stupid to boo NOW, but I don't think the fans can forgive past discrepancies where the Hughes/ Elano saga, is involved.

It's got a feel of 'too little too late' where Hughes is concerned.

What saga? Elano had a fit of pique because he wasn't being selected and did an interview with Sky telling of his frustration at not playing. Hughes had a word and then said that it was resolved.

Now the only time I have ever seen it brought up is on forums like this by people guessing rather than from anything factual.

I don't believe that Hughes has ever left him out because of his attitude, but because of him preferring the 2 defensive midfielders and the form of Ireland. Now this is obviously open to debate whether he is right or wrong, but at the end of the day its his job on the line.

Personally I don't believe there is any feud between them. As for yesterday, I too thought it was the wrong substitution at the time. Now having reflected on it, I can see why he done it, because both Zabaleta and kmpany where also struggling. The alternative was to bring Petrov on and move Robinho to the right, who I thought at he time was also beginning to struggle having put in a shift throughout the game.

he started Etuhu ahead of him against Fulham, case closed.

edit lol...

 

[Joycee Banercheck]

We won that game too.



EDIT: Good point!

PS: Damn you Rammy Blues!!

 

[bluepeter62]

We've all heard the stories that hughes hates elano and they don't get on etc. We're told there is a big chance that hes going to be sold in the summer. maybe the booing of his substitution was a way of teling hughes that the fans want him to stay and that we like him.

just a thought...

Would those stories be from the media?

Now how many players where we linked with in January? Around 40 at a guess I think. We signed 4.

Its strange how certain posters on here choose to believe the media when it suits them.

 

[bluepeter62]

Bigga

This doesn't excuse the booing. Furthermore, how can it be helpful to make such an issue of the alleged MH-Elano battle of wills? In the end, they are both employees of the club who should just get on with it, as we should get on with supporting them. Everything else is simply irrelevant gossip.

I understand what you're saying, but the obvious lack of professionalism in putting out the best team, over pride, has finally got on the fans wicks! I do understand that irrelevant and stupid to boo NOW, but I don't think the fans can forgive past discrepancies where the Hughes/ Elano saga, is involved.

It's got a feel of 'too little too late' where Hughes is concerned.

What saga? Elano had a fit of pique because he wasn't being selected and did an interview with Sky telling of his frustration at not playing. Hughes had a word and then said that it was resolved.

Now the only time I have ever seen it brought up is on forums like this by people guessing rather than from anything factual.

I don't believe that Hughes has ever left him out because of his attitude, but because of him preferring the 2 defensive midfielders and the form of Ireland. Now this is obviously open to debate whether he is right or wrong, but at the end of the day its his job on the line.

Personally I don't believe there is any feud between them. As for yesterday, I too thought it was the wrong substitution at the time. Now having reflected on it, I can see why he done it, because both Zabaleta and kmpany where also struggling. The alternative was to bring Petrov on and move Robinho to the right, who I thought at he time was also beginning to struggle having put in a shift throughout the game.

he started Etuhu ahead of him against Fulham, case closed.

edit lol...

Oh so because he doesn't pick him there must be a feud between them?

I guess Tranny and Rooney have fallen out with baconface because he dropped both of them yesterday.

 

[bizzbo]

What saga? Elano had a fit of pique because he wasn't being selected and did an interview with Sky telling of his frustration at not playing. Hughes had a word and then said that it was resolved.

Now the only time I have ever seen it brought up is on forums like this by people guessing rather than from anything factual.

I don't believe that Hughes has ever left him out because of his attitude, but because of him preferring the 2 defensive midfielders and the form of Ireland. Now this is obviously open to debate whether he is right or wrong, but at the end of the day its his job on the line.

Personally I don't believe there is any feud between them. As for yesterday, I too thought it was the wrong substitution at the time. Now having reflected on it, I can see why he done it, because both Zabaleta and kmpany where also struggling. The alternative was to bring Petrov on and move Robinho to the right, who I thought at he time was also beginning to struggle having put in a shift throughout the game.

it's not quite factual, but even before the season had begun numerous reputable papers had reported that Hughes and his coaching staff had identified Elano as a problem charector, and a trouble maker. This was repeated ad infinitum in the telegraph, independant, times, guardian, before and after elano's disgraceful TV interview. I cant see anything else being behind this, given the number and extremely specific nature of the stories, for me it was clear that at least one person on the coaching staff was spreading this stuff about off the record, and it flatly contradicts Hughes public attempts to portray himself and elano in a chummy way (calling him, 'Ela', the ridiculous 'bless him' comment this weekend.

And you might like to consider the number of times that elano has been overlooked, and the players who have started ahead of him, how often he gets substituted, and how rarely he comes on as a sub when we have been behind in games. i'm not trying to apportion blame, but there is clearly something in all of this.

 

[bluepeter62]

What saga? Elano had a fit of pique because he wasn't being selected and did an interview with Sky telling of his frustration at not playing. Hughes had a word and then said that it was resolved.

Now the only time I have ever seen it brought up is on forums like this by people guessing rather than from anything factual.

I don't believe that Hughes has ever left him out because of his attitude, but because of him preferring the 2 defensive midfielders and the form of Ireland. Now this is obviously open to debate whether he is right or wrong, but at the end of the day its his job on the line.

Personally I don't believe there is any feud between them. As for yesterday, I too thought it was the wrong substitution at the time. Now having reflected on it, I can see why he done it, because both Zabaleta and kmpany where also struggling. The alternative was to bring Petrov on and move Robinho to the right, who I thought at he time was also beginning to struggle having put in a shift throughout the game.

it's not quite factual, but even before the season had begun numerous reputable papers had reported that Hughes and his coaching staff had identified Elano as a problem charector, and a trouble maker. This was repeated ad infinitum in the telegraph, independant, times, guardian, before and after elano's disgraceful TV interview. I cant see anything else being behind this, given the number and extremely specific nature of the stories, for me it was clear that at least one person on the coaching staff was spreading this stuff about off the record, and it flatly contradicts Hughes public attempts to portray himself and elano in a chummy way (calling him, 'Ela', the ridiculous 'bless him' comment this weekend.

And you might like to consider the number of times that elano has been overlooked, and the players who have started ahead of him, how often he gets substituted, and how rarely he comes on as a sub when we have been behind in games. i'm not trying to apportion blame, but there is clearly something in all of this.

Please give us links? I haven't read the things you are referring to. Its very easy to post innuendo without proof!

 

[Disturbance]

What saga? Elano had a fit of pique because he wasn't being selected and did an interview with Sky telling of his frustration at not playing. Hughes had a word and then said that it was resolved.

Now the only time I have ever seen it brought up is on forums like this by people guessing rather than from anything factual.

I don't believe that Hughes has ever left him out because of his attitude, but because of him preferring the 2 defensive midfielders and the form of Ireland. Now this is obviously open to debate whether he is right or wrong, but at the end of the day its his job on the line.

Personally I don't believe there is any feud between them. As for yesterday, I too thought it was the wrong substitution at the time. Now having reflected on it, I can see why he done it, because both Zabaleta and kmpany where also struggling. The alternative was to bring Petrov on and move Robinho to the right, who I thought at he time was also beginning to struggle having put in a shift throughout the game.

it's not quite factual, but even before the season had begun numerous reputable papers had reported that Hughes and his coaching staff had identified Elano as a problem charector, and a trouble maker. This was repeated ad infinitum in the telegraph, independant, times, guardian, before and after elano's disgraceful TV interview. I cant see anything else being behind this, given the number and extremely specific nature of the stories, for me it was clear that at least one person on the coaching staff was spreading this stuff about off the record, and it flatly contradicts Hughes public attempts to portray himself and elano in a chummy way (calling him, 'Ela', the ridiculous 'bless him' comment this weekend.

Yep, I remember the articles at the time. There was also direct criticism of Elano by Hughes in the papers before he did his TV interview (which people still forget did not criticise MH or the club in ANYWAY whatsoever).

 

[bizzbo]

Please give us links? I haven't read the things you are referring to. Its very easy to post innuendo without proof!

its not innuendo, but i really cant be bothered to fill you in on 6 months of whats been in the papers, especially as most of the articles are removed from the online versions after a couple of months.

 

[Bluemoon115]

What saga? Elano had a fit of pique because he wasn't being selected and did an interview with Sky telling of his frustration at not playing. Hughes had a word and then said that it was resolved.

Now the only time I have ever seen it brought up is on forums like this by people guessing rather than from anything factual.

I don't believe that Hughes has ever left him out because of his attitude, but because of him preferring the 2 defensive midfielders and the form of Ireland. Now this is obviously open to debate whether he is right or wrong, but at the end of the day its his job on the line.

Personally I don't believe there is any feud between them. As for yesterday, I too thought it was the wrong substitution at the time. Now having reflected on it, I can see why he done it, because both Zabaleta and kmpany where also struggling. The alternative was to bring Petrov on and move Robinho to the right, who I thought at he time was also beginning to struggle having put in a shift throughout the game.

it's not quite factual, but even before the season had begun numerous reputable papers had reported that Hughes and his coaching staff had identified Elano as a problem charector, and a trouble maker. This was repeated ad infinitum in the telegraph, independant, times, guardian, before and after elano's disgraceful TV interview. I cant see anything else being behind this, given the number and extremely specific nature of the stories, for me it was clear that at least one person on the coaching staff was spreading this stuff about off the record, and it flatly contradicts Hughes public attempts to portray himself and elano in a chummy way (calling him, 'Ela', the ridiculous 'bless him' comment this weekend.

Yep, I remember the articles at the time. There was also direct criticism of Elano by Hughes in the papers before he did his TV interview (which people still forget did not criticise MH or the club in ANYWAY whatsoever).

No there was not, you've made this claim up before and completely failed to back it up with anything.

 

[Disturbance]

No there was not, you've made this claim up before and completely failed to back it up with anything.

However much you'd like to brush it under the carpet it did happen. I'm not going to spend hours trawling google just to satisfy the saddoes on here who would instantly try to come up with reasons to discount it anyway.

 

[Bluemoon115]

No there was not, you've made this claim up before and completely failed to back it up with anything.

However much you'd like to brush it under the carpet it did happen. I'm not going to spend hours trawling google just to satisfy the saddoes on here who would instantly try to come up with reasons to discount it anyway.

I spent at least 15 mins trying to find anything close to what you said when you first said it, but couldn't find anything. Maybe your just imagining things.

 

[BurnCK]

Whatever reason he came off, Im glad that at least Hughes knows how much the majority of City fans love seeing Elano playing. Dont forget that a certain times throughout the season it looked as if Elano may have been off either in Jan or in the summer. If City fans can in anyway influence Hughes to keep hold of him or mend their bridges then that's a good thing.

 

[moomba]

I have no doubt at all that the press was being briefed negative stories about Elano (and others) by someone on the coaching staff.

I also have no doubt that Elano has been left out of the squad or on the bench for sustained periods, more to teach him a lesson than for fitness or form reasons.

There seemed to be a thawing of relationships around January though, and I suspect that while neither likes the other, there is no major problem now. Simple case of Hughes not having a lot of trust or faith in Elano to get a job done, and Elano maybe realising that fighting the manager is not his best chance of remaining at the club.