Franny Lee The Chairman

how quickly did ball ruin Hortons good work??In hindsight we all thought he'd be great and Kinky kept him in a job and caused us to get relegated as a result!Getting rid of walsh...rocastle disappearing pronto...buying half of georgia...the list goes on!

Then Franny hired Coppell....that worked well!


Franny tried and failed....thats all I can say.
 
stony said:
I bet if people were honest, you'd find out of everyone who was around at the time, about 90% supported the "Forward With Franny" campaign. If you asked them now, I bet the same figure would think they wished they hadn't. Franny Lee was a fucking disaster as chairman, if only for bringing in our worst ever manager.

He was better than what we had though, and he did do things that were right - he just didn't have the money and neither did the club.
Remember Franny's fortune at that time was at the most £7 MILLION not billion - imagine that today he couldn't even afford to bankroll Robbies wages.
Under the circumstances he did quite well.
 
Franny Lee is a classic example of the phrase "You should never go back"

Its a shame now that he is mostly remembered for his time as chairman, when things didn't work out, rather than for the great City player he was.

as has been posted before, at the time around 90% of City fans wanted him as chairman - thats fact

He gave it his best shot - his decisions can be questioned, but at least he had a go, and I admire him for that.

He's still City through and through.

So, Franny as Chairman?? Not as good as we have now..... not as good as Bernstien...... but a whole lot better than what we had at the time.......Peter Swales.

Lets not shorten our memories - Swales was deluded and leading us into oblivion
 
Jobs for the boys.

All the managers linked with City when Horton left (alright, some were a bit fanciful - "Franz Beckenbauer is big mates with Franny and is comin") and then he goes and gives it to his mate that no-one had even thought of or wanted.

Amazing.
 
I think people are being a touch short sighted. From a football stand point, with the appointment of Ball, I think servere criticism is justified, but from a business stand point he was a huge part of the reason that City ended up being a good prospect for our current owners.

Before Lee came along the club's off-field management was incredibly poor and from day one he set about building the City brand and he dragged us kicking and screaming to a place where most other top European football clubs already were. His work on the business side, continued by Bernstein, got our house well and truly in order at a time when things were going pear-shaped on the pitch.
 
Wooderbeen said:
Before Lee came along the club's off-field management was incredibly poor and from day one he set about building the City brand and he dragged us kicking and screaming to a place where most other top European football clubs already were. His work on the business side, continued by Bernstein, got our house well and truly in order at a time when things were going pear-shaped on the pitch.

This is right. Swales's legacy was really very poor in terms of the off-field state of the club, and we were heading in only one direction if he'd stayed.

Before Lee came, the club shop and merchandising rights were licensed to a third party (bloke called Eddie Phillips) for a flat fee of GBP 60k per year on a long-term deal. The same year, United were turning over GBP 8 million and Newcastle GBP 6 million from merchandising, generating profits in the millions. Lee got us out of that deal and started to put in place a commercial structure that vaguely resembled something befitting football in the 1990s as opposed to the 1970s.

He also, as someone says, did a lot of work with the Commonwealth Games bid team with a view to moving us to the Commonwealth Stadium after the Games. And don't forget the Academy. We got the newly invented Academy status with the first batch of applicants in 1998, but the decision to go for it, the planning and the overhaul of the Platt Lane facilities necessary for our application to be accepted were all down to Lee's regime.

(Credit also to the board after he left. After relegation in 1998, we had to make all kinds of cuts to compensate for the anticipated drop in revenue - turnover eventually fell from around GBP 15 million in 1997/8 to GBP 12 million in 1998/9. With the Academy expected to cost GBP 750k per annum to run and money still to be spent to complete the Platt Lane upgrade, shelving creation of the Academy for a couple of years would have been seen by many as a sensible decision at the time to alleviate a short-term crisis. Thank heavens they took the long-term view).

As everyone says, where he fell down was, ironically given the way he kept saying what a plus his football background represented, on the football side. Ultimately, whether a club is badly run or well run, the biggest effect on the bottom line is the success or otherwise of the team.

Lee horribly mishandled the managerial situation - not only in appointing Ball, but also undermining Brian Horton, who spent a season and a half with the press telling everyone he was two games from the sack when Lee should either have backed the manager properly or sacked him earlier if the chairman didn't feel able to offer the appropriate support. And Lee also dictated transfer policy, resolving to sell high earners (who happened to be the best players).

He didn't ever, I believe, impose on a manager an unwanted player, but he did also play an active role in identifying targets along with the manager, and he also insisted on approving every deal at the time (that changed later, and didn't apply under Frank Clark). So when people talk about the unwise decision to trade Walsh for Creaney, that was a joint decision between Lee and Ball, not Ball's decision alone.
 
The club was in a real mess when Lee took over, even more off field than on. There was something stupid about a hot water boiler needed replacement for about £500 and the previous management hadn't even bothered to do that.

Lee certainly didn't have the money, and maybe didn't have the ability, to put things right. He did try though, and some progress was made, though mainly in areas that didn't show immediately to the fans, like getting back control of the merchandise.

I think people tend to underestimate how much shit the club was in, and how little money there was to play with. If I remember right they had to find a million quid just to shift the contaminated soil unexpectedly found under the old Kippax. If people want to say we're a lot better off now with the Sheikh, of course we are. The Sheikh probably pays his butler as much as Lee had to spend.

By the way, I think it's a fact that Swales never put a penny in the club, he ran it (badly) off its revenues, which is why Lee inherited such a mess.
 
Neil McNab said:
He kept the club GOING with free toilet paper!

We needed the free toilet roll due to the amount of sh1t we had to watch on the pitch each week.
 
He got rid of Swales at a time when the club was about to go into oblivion. Swales had sold off every possible source of income to the club & the next stage was either a few more years of increasing debt leading to inevitable bankruptcy or the same relegations leading to bankruptcy.

Lee found great big holes in the finances which he had to fill in order to keep the club in business instead of signing players. He put great importance in building the academy. As soon as others with finance offered to take it on, he sold to them; something Swales would never have voluntarily done. He lost millions on City wheras Swales family made millions out of City.

Getting rid of Swales saved the club imo.
 

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