Frenkie de Jong

[Coatigan]

The thing that will work in our favour (and something that shocked me this morning) is that Sterling is still only 26.

His value has weakened because of recent (2+ years IMO) form and contract situation but we'd be right to figure his value out based on what we got for Sane.

No idea what FDJ is valued at but they got him for £65m in 2019 when his stock was high.

The £75m figure from the media today feels plucked out of nowhere because, like you said, the Sterling valuation will only be known by us/Barca. Both clubs can exaggerate whichever fee they want to fit the narrative if it does happen, though.

FDJ has a release clause, of €400m. So his value really is either that, or whatever Barcelona accept for him. They are unlikely to accept less than they paid for him imo, but would not pick an amount that stops the deal happening either. Therefore 75m is not a daft guess really.

We I would imagine we value Sterling at whatever money we are prepared to pay as an extra, minus whatever they value FDJ. So, if the club are prepared to pay up to 20m including Raz, and they value DJ at £90m, then we value Sterling as £70m. If they value DJ as 50m, we value Sterling 30m. etc.

If both are happy to do a deal, the final value wil mean whatever each party wants it to mean. The only real and meaningful value will be that extra that they get paid for Raz, the rest is for reporting purposes only.

The fact we are supposedly willing to loan him initially must also factor into the cost of the extra, to jeep it down, you would think.

 

[Coatigan]

Barca are in such a mess, they are just spit-balling out suggestions and ideas, hoping something will stick.

Barca's new executive are treading water and know City are one of the very few clubs who can throw them a lifebelt, coupled with trying to finesse a better relationship, long-term.

For that reason, City hold a lot of negotiating power. If we are smart, we can be to Barca, what Dortmund are these days to Bayern.

Our woman, forever reminding them of the day we bailed them out of the financial mire.

you mean the other way round, thatblast bit, presumably.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

you mean the other way round, thatblast bit, presumably.

Yep, thanks for flag, *edit.

 

[Gumzy97]

I don't see why we would do that, or whether we had £75m cash on the hip right now, in light of a striker remaining our ultimate priority.

It's pretty simple, if Sterling is valued at £50m, then the difference in valuation Barca place on De Jong would be the balancing payment from us.

Why hand them £75m upfront, when we can give them £20m and still get the player?

Sterling earns £300k a week, Barca would surely be better off buying rather than renting, with so little working capital.

£20m cash gives them wiggle room to do other things.

Sounds like they are also offering Lingard loan terms in Jan and joining them on a free next summer.

Barca are fucked they need a striker. All this talk of Haaland a year ago. But the truth is they are struggling to get the leading goal scorer from Xavis old club. They are a financial mess.

Only reason I think we would offer 75 mil is to help them as our board are former Barca. They may want to help them out.

The thing that makes me think De Jong is gone is that the press in Spain were attacking him yesterday, where as a la masia graduate in Puig was caught smoking a illegal substance but the Barca press attacked De Jong instead this is sure sign that the club is turning on De Jong.


More stories about how De Jong was Koemans favourite etc how the Barca dressing room were annoyed with how Koeman gave De Jong special privileges over other Barca team mates etc. They are starting to change their tune on him.

 

[Gumzy97]

Foden (22) - Haaland (22) - Torres (22)
Grealish (27) - De Jong (25) - Bernardo (28)
Zinchenko (25) - Dias (25) - Stones (28) - Cancelo (28)
Ederson (29)

Avg. Age 25.5

Yeah that could work from next season. lol.

(Just went for the youngest in the spot from the 1st/2nd choices)

That front three is terrifying.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Barca are fucked they need a striker. All this talk of Haaland a year ago. But the truth is they are struggling to get the leading goal scorer from Xavis old club. They are a financial mess.

Only reason I think we would offer 75 mil is to help them as our board are former Barca. They may want to help them out.

The thing that makes me think De Jong is gone is that the press in Spain were attacking him yesterday, where as a la masia graduate in Puig was caught smoking a illegal substance but the Barca press attacked De Jong instead this is sure sign that the club is turning on De Jong.


More stories about how De Jong was Koemans favourite etc how the Barca dressing room were annoyed with how Koeman gave De Jong special privileges over other Barca team mates etc. They are starting to change their tune on him.

City aren't a charity, they don't use £75m to help out another club.

Barca are desperate but we don't even know if City are giving De Jong the time of day.

In the summer it was Dembele they were trying to foist upon us for Sterling.

I would bite your hand off for a De Jong, Sterling swap, but Pep is nobody's fool and will know if all this chatter at the Barca end passes the smell test.

 

[domalino]

Where has all this De Jong talk even come from?

It's just entirely wishful thinking right? They might want one of our players so everyone hopes we get their best player?

 

[Coatigan]

Where has all this De Jong talk even come from?

It's just entirely wishful thinking right? They might want one of our players so everyone hopes we get their best player?

Initially, yes. And was so for a long time. But recently, a few reports in spain have claimed the clubs are looking at a swap deal, as well as that we are interested in him and they are in an unrelated way interested in sterling.

Could be a reach on their part too, but then the same can be said for any transfer claim, including our supposed Kane obsession. If you apply equal levels of belief or dismissal, the claims are (now) there, in addition to wishful thinking.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Barca are in such a mess, they are just spit-balling out suggestions and ideas, hoping something will stick.

Barca's new executive are treading water and know City are one of the very few clubs who can throw them a lifebelt, coupled with trying to finesse a better relationship, long-term.

For that reason, City hold a lot of negotiating power. If we are smart, Barca can be to us, what Dortmund are these days to Bayern.

Our woman, forever reminding them of the day we bailed them out of the financial mire.

They still owe us for nabbing Garcia too ;-)

 

[oddfellows]

Can only play on a Saturday though?

Very good ;-)