Gary Neville

I don't have any issues with Neville to be honest, he is pretty fair and doesn't really ever go on about 'money etc'. Personally, I thought he felt sorry for the fans in the stadium on thew weekend after the goal.

Tyler on the other hand, is a bit of a wanker.
 
The vast majority of commentators on Sky, BT and ITV are shite - I rarely put the volume on for that reason.
 
Fame Monster said:
Original thread title was 'Should Sky ban Neville from commentating on City games?' before some busy fucker changed it.

Apart from the fact that he started laughing when our goal was disallowed and is United through and through, the most important example of his bias yesterday was when Sterling brought down Walker-Pieters (I think) and as soon as he went down, Neville piped up with his usual "that's a tactical foul!" for which Sterling was harshly booked.

2 minutes later, Ndombele brought down De Bruyne 20 yards closer to goal. Neville said nothing and Ndombele wasn't booked despite the foul.
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Sterling's was a tactical foul (or professional foul to use the correct wording). He made no attempt to play the ball, he simply wanted to stop Walker-Pieters from breaking and rightly got a yellow card for it. Nothing harsh about it.

Ndombele made a genuine attempt to win the ball, in my opinion. It was a shit attempt, but I think De Bruyne is capable of making most players look shit. You could argue that he deserved a yellow card for dangerous play, but not for a professional/tactical foul, as he tried winning the ball.

Oliver made plenty of mistakes on Saturday, but I think he got these two right.
 
ive stopped watching any football at all on tv unless its city and I cant get to the game, I find tis way I can watch football how I want rather than listen to the utter pre match / game plan garbage that the pundits say. If it is city playing I don't switch the channel on until the lads are just about to KO, often I turn the volume down during the game as I really don't want to listen to the pundits who are 90% bias.

I started watching football on tv in the 70s, at that time it was good commentary not opinions. Over the decades for some reason the bbc and others seem to think we are interested in former Liverpool players or untied players view. I certainly am not and it has put me off the game.

Neville isn't the best but not the worse either, he compliments david & bernardo all the time and admires how we pass, perhaps jealous as his red team cant play the way he would like them to.
 
kenzie115 said:
Sterling's was a tactical foul (or professional foul to use the correct wording). He made no attempt to play the ball, he simply wanted to stop Walker-Pieters from breaking and rightly got a yellow card for it. Nothing harsh about it.

Ndombele made a genuine attempt to win the ball, in my opinion. It was a shit attempt, but I think De Bruyne is capable of making most players look shit. You could argue that he deserved a yellow card for dangerous play, but not for a professional/tactical foul, as he tried winning the ball.

Oliver made plenty of mistakes on Saturday, but I think he got these two right.
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Ndombele brought down De Bruyne when it would have been about 4 City players against 2 Spurs players and about 25 yards away from the goal. He was nowhere near the ball and made a deliberate, tactical decision to slide tackle because if he would have stayed on his feet, De Bruyne would have gone past him and we had a very good chance to score with the players we had breaking. Like Moura's in the second half, it was the very essence of a tactical foul. Bringing someone down with your legs rather than your arms doesn't make it any less of a tactical foul.

The only difference between Ndombele's and Sterling's is that Sterling committed the foul double the distance from goal than Ndombele did and we had a few more men back than Spurs did in the Ndombele situation. Yet only one of them got booked.
 
Hated him and as a player, loathed him in fact.

But to be honest, I quite like him now and find his commentary pretty good. Maybe I'm not hearing what others hear, but for me anyway, I have no problem with it.

I find Andy Hinchcliffe worse to be honest. Sometimes it's hard to believe he's a blue.
 
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Fame Monster said:
Bringing someone down with your legs rather than your arms doesn't make it any less of a tactical foul.
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It is true that professional fouls can be committed with legs as well as arms. However, by challenging with your legs/feet, you at least have a chance of someone interpreting it as an honest attempt to win the ball. In this case, I thought Ndombele was trying to win the ball, as did the ref. You clearly did not. However, judging by the tone of your reply and your original post, you clearly have a "we was robbed" mindset and so nothing I say will change your opinion.

Enjoy the rest of your day.
 
What a surprise tonight these 2 C@NTS are not looking at our fantastic play that carved out 30 shots but at our defending at corners! so they can show the rest of the premier if they didnt know already that that is one of our weak points, if by chance any team gets lucky enough to actually get a corner against our absolutely fantastic side.
 
waspish said:
What a surprise tonight these 2 C@NTS are not looking at our fantastic play that carved out 30 shots but at our defending at corners! so they can show the rest of the premier if they didnt know already that that is one of our weak points, if by chance any team gets lucky enough to actually get a corner against our absolutely fantastic side.
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Its fair comment though,we are susceptible at set pieces and particularly corners.

Apparently 25% of the goals we concede are from corners,and predominantly from poor defending at the near post.Obviously we rarely give corners away......but that % is the highest of all teams.

We don't have many..... but on this topic,we have a problem and Neville and Carragher were pointing that out.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Its fair comment though,we are susceptible at set pieces and particularly corners.

Apparently 25% of the goals we concede are from corners,and predominantly from poor defending at the near post.Obviously we rarely give corners away......but that % is the highest of all teams.

We don't have many..... but on this topic,we have a problem and Neville and Carragher were pointing that out.
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And they did say that it was a freak result, given the match stats. Loved Pep's comment when a reporter mentioned Spurs' 3 shots on saturday; "It was 2. Kane's shot wasn't a shot".
 
Never heard him commentate. Surely he can't be as annoying as those people who missuse the work narrative all the time becasue they think it is fashionable?
 
karen7 said:
He started with this tactical fouling thing last season before a derby,he was talking about dinho trying to get ref to book him early,no doubt what he and tyler says have an effect,they drove the getting sergio banned that time,they guide the FA as to what to review by making a big deal out of things we do,he once said that you do anything you can to get an advantage,he definately tries that with us,he won't ever stop doing our games,him and tyler are here to stay,never forget however nice he is in our direction he is still a diehard rag
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I don’t mind him tbh. I thought I’d hate him when he started but Unlike carragher he about as unbiased as he can be .
 
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