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[west didsblue]

Just out of interest, what happened to him? Did he take his bat home when his beloved Boris got ousted?

Don't know and don't care.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

So this was in 2015 - is this acceptable to you?

Fifty thousand NHS staff earn 'at least £100,000'

There are more than 50,000 people in the NHS who earned more than £100,000 in 2013-14, an investigation by the Taxpayers' Alliance and Daily Mail shows.

www.bbc.co.uk

Does that mean we have 50 thousand chiefs in highly paid positions and not enough Nurses and doctors porters and other staff to run the NHS

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Does that mean we have 50 thousand chiefs in highly paid positions and not enough Nurses and doctors porters and other staff to run the NHS

Yes and that means poor people will die because they can’t afford to heat and eat, apparently.

If we have less people, we need less doctors.

Maybe SJT is onto something.

 

[west didsblue]

Does that mean we have 50 thousand chiefs in highly paid positions and not enough Nurses and doctors porters and other staff to run the NHS

In reality over 90% of the 50,000 are in senior clinical roles (consultants etc.) many of whom could earn a lot more in the private sector.

The report was put together by the Taxpayers Alliance which is a right wing think tank and the Daily Mail. Wonder what their motivation was?

 

[BrianW]

The problem is, when the economy is doing well and the private sector is getting huge wedges, no one thinks the public sector should share the bounty. They are told to be grateful for rises that match inflation. But when things are bad, and inflation is high, successive governments have used the public sector as an economic tool by holding their rises to an artificially low level. Over time, this builds up obvious pressures.

But as has been said, almost all current strikers are private sector workers! There's just a blockage in some people's brains that persuades them any striker must be public sector. It's almost as if the Daily Mail's lying propaganda works.(Also an amazing number of people think Russia is still Communist, despite the existence, until very recently, of the Conservative Friends of Russia.)

 

[west didsblue]

The problem is, when the economy is doing well and the private sector is getting huge wedges, no one thinks the public sector should share the bounty. They are told to be grateful for rises that match inflation. But when things are bad, and inflation is high, successive governments have used the public sector as an economic tool by holding their rises to an artificially low level. Over time, this builds up obvious pressures.

But as has been said, almost all current strikers are private sector workers! There's just a blockage in some people's brains that persuades them any striker must be public sector. It's almost as if the Daily Mail's lying propaganda works.(Also an amazing number of people think Russia is still Communist, despite the existence, until very recently, of the Conservative Friends of Russia.)

Funnily enough, the founder of the Taxpayers Alliance who did the report into high paid NHS workers is the same person who founded the Conservative Friends of Russia. Unsurprisingly he was also a leading Brexiteer.

 

[SJT]

It's amazing how things get bent out of shape - my initial point was, with all this austerity/misery/ludicrous bills
-the public sector can ill afford to ask for wage rises, there’s no money to pay them. Simple.

I fully expect public sector workers to not give a fuck about the rest of us. It has always been thus.

Public sector pay-rises don’t come from a magic tree the government has, they have to tax the rest of us...and I’m skint. Sorry. proper fuckin bread line skint.

 

[SJT]

Yes and that means poor people will die because they can’t afford to heat and eat, apparently.

If we have less people, we need less doctors.

Maybe SJT is onto something.

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[I'm With Stupid]

In reality over 90% of the 50,000 are in senior clinical roles (consultants etc.) many of whom could earn a lot more in the private sector.

And I wonder how many of them were pushed over 100k by having to work overtime because of staffing shortages. Hell, they even included people's redundancy payments in the list. "Look at all the people (who've since been fired) who are earning over 100k." A study by a shady organisation that claims to have represent the British taxpayers, but no-one actually knows who they represent, because they refuse to disclose who funds them.

 

[SJT]

So because one of the bosses at my trust earned that (one that I've never heard, seen or spoken too btw) I can get to fuck on my salary... Or the domestics & porters can piss off on their just about national living wage...

I do however, disagree with an earlier post on here asking for a properly funded NHS... I would like to work for an NHS that doesn't piss money down the drain... But that's a different argument.

No, my point is there’s too many idiots overpaid there - too many bean-counters and admin. not the general staff etc...