Gas & Electricity

[The Earl of Abington]

Your boiler won’t make hot water unless you run hot taps.

Ok, just been looking on my provider's website (EDF)...I didn't realise until now that Economy 7 doesn't apply to gas...only electricity. So that answers half of my question. But I'm still not clear as to whether it is cheaper to leave the water heating on 24/7 or to switch on and off as required? Apologies for being a bit dim.

 

[kaz7]

I wonder how much the phone line cost to enter that competition.

you can post it in or free online as well as text

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Ok, just been looking on my provider's website (EDF)...I didn't realise until now that Economy 7 doesn't apply to gas...only electricity. So that answers half of my question. But I'm still not clear as to whether it is cheaper to leave the water heating on 24/7 or to switch on and off as required? Apologies for being a bit dim.

If you have a combi boiler, hot water is only created when you turn a hot tap on. Thats why it takes a few seconds for the water to get hot.

What I think you are describing is the old immersion heater where it heated up an entire tank of water.

 

[kaz7]

Petrol here has dropped from 189 to 166 so that is something good , put some in

 

[inbetween]

Sunny Scotland already generates 100% of its electricity needs from renewables. Unfortunately we still pay for it as if it’s all gas generated.

This isn't true unfortunately because your supply isn't clever enough to know where your energy actually comes from. If it was the case that Scotland generated 100% from renewables then what would happen in Scotland when it's not windy and it's cloudy or it's night time? Surely wouldn't the lights go out?

Scotland’s electricity consumption isn’t 100% renewable - Full Fact

Scotland produces renewable electricity equivalent to its annual consumption, but some of this is exported. In 2020, 56% of the electricity consumed in Scotland came from renewable sources.

fullfact.org

All of our energy is produced on demand and the source of it is irrelevant because it's all bunged into the national grid, there are no separate pipes for renewables and fossil fuels. It's how the contracts are sold on what is generated that tells us whether you're buying into renewables or not. Scotland is part of the national grid so there's no way to determine what your actual supply is.

So Scotland might seem to be 100% renewable but this isn't true, if it was true then you wouldn't have any electricity at night or when it isn't windy. Another reason why is much of it is sold on the market to England...

 

[Saddleworth2]

This isn't true unfortunately because your supply isn't clever enough to know where your energy actually comes from. If it was the case that Scotland generated 100% from renewables then what would happen in Scotland when it's not windy and it's cloudy or it's night time? Surely wouldn't the lights go out?

The first line of the full fact article you quoted seems to say otherwise mate. It generates 100% of what it requires is what I said.

 

[SilverFox2]

I assume you are talking about Standard Charges.
Standard Charges have risen mainly because of the failed energy companies. The costs of those failures are being recovered through the standard charges we pay. Ofgen don't set a price cap for standard charges.

Surely failed companies don't have their losses compensated by other energy companies do they? Also surely the remaining companies are getting extra business so their overhead cost per customer should drop not increase.

 

[Tangled up in blue.]

Petrol here has dropped from 189 to 166 so that is something good , put some in

169 in Northwich

 

[KearsleyBlue]

169 in Northwich

Getting better isn't it. 158 in walkden and 159 in kearsley

 

[M18CTID]

Looking like a price freeze and crucially one that is closer to the current cap (the £400 rebate should bring it down close to that) and not the higher cap that is due to come in on October 1st. Plus help for businesses too. Not confirmed yet and it could run into next week when it's announced but I think we can say with some confidence that whatever the final details are then significant help is coming so Armageddon should be averted......well for now at least!

Liz Truss expected to freeze energy bills in tax-funded scheme

Addition of £400 discount would effectively keep price cap at current rate of £1,971

www.theguardian.com