BerkshireBlue
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all cancelled though ;)Nah, there's more - much more - to HS2 than Birmingham mate:
High Speed 2 - Wikipedia
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all cancelled though ;)Nah, there's more - much more - to HS2 than Birmingham mate:
High Speed 2 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I don't want to derail the chat but HS2 is false promise. It's only linking Birmingham to London fast but guess what it already has a fast link already. The last time I looked trains to London were getting slashed anyway. How will it pay for itself? the person wanting to go to London will go to London regardless of it taking 10 minutes longer or not. Ther only way it would pay for itself is if the ticket prices for HS2 train were double the price of the existing trains. That's the only way it will pay for itself and I hazard a guess that is what they'll attempt to do.
The example I've used demonstrates there's 100 billions of pounds available to the treasury whenever they want to do a vanity project. Don't let them con you into thinking money doesn't exist. They could easily afford solar panels and batteries for every household they just don't want to spend it on you and rather get rich by making their businesses they hold shares in richer.
Rolls Royce already planning for the future, hopefully the share price will recover on the back of this, mine have gone from 40% plus a year ago to a near 30% loss at todays price.It is stupid but it's pretty obvious why, it's because renewables are not consistent in producing electricity. Solar today is producing just 4.4% of our electricity, for wind it's 21%. On some days it's less and on some days it's more, however gas is consistently the majority source because it has to be.
So if they indeed put you on a renewable tariff separated from the price of gas then yeah it'd be cheaper but you'd have to accept that the lights would be off most of the time.
This is the idiocy of the green movement which demands a wholesale move to renewables with solar panels and wind turbines replacing gas. They can't quite answer what we do when there is no wind blowing and no sun shining. The answer can only be nuclear but that requires massive investment and tricky questions for the greens and NIMBY types.
Was there a big queue pal?155.7 at Chaddy Costco Saturday morning as I was filling up.
Not at 8.00am but there were trollies all over the car park to control queues later.Was there a big queue pal?
Spot on.But you said yourself that this could go on for a lot longer than a year so what do we do if we've cancelled HS2 and the £100 billion has been dished out, only to find ourselves in the same position 12 months later?
Besides, cancelling HS2 at this stage isn't a realistic option. Billions and billions have already been spent on it, plenty of work has already been done, contracts signed, etc, so cancelling it now will cost billions more which no doubt would then be passed onto the taxpayer. Oh, and thousands of jobs will be lost. It's also short-sighted to say that the only benefit of HS2 is that we can get to London half an hour quicker. This country has been crying out for a decent high speed rail link between London and the major UK cities for decades, and many European countries shit all over us in that regard. HS2 - once it is up and running - will be capable of providing up to 18 trains an hour to and from London which is a huge increase on what we have today. It will also more than pay for itself over time so the idea that it is £100 billion spunked into thin air simply isn't true. We're forever berating the short-sightedness of the government (be it this one or previous ones) but then when they do actually come up with a long-term project like this - and one that is backed by all 3 main political parties - people still aren't happy.
I thought the same.Spot on.
I have just returned from Italy, you know, the country that makes our rolling stock, and their rail network makes me ashamed of the U.K. We’re stuck in the dark ages with our trains and stations.