Gas & Electricity

[mancityvstoke]

I thought the same.

Many European countries put us to shame when it comes to public transport. I've spent time recently in the Czech Republic, Italy, Spain, France and Austria and all of them have far superior (and cheaper) transport options.

How did we ever get left this far behind?

Privatisation?

 

[RobMCFC]

I thought the same.

Many European countries put us to shame when it comes to public transport. I've spent time recently in the Czech Republic, Italy, Spain, France and Austria and all of them have far superior (and cheaper) transport options.

How did we ever get left this far behind?

Because people have this unshakable view that the "Great" in "Great Britain" is some permanent fixture that needs no work, no foresight and no effort.

The same people who think we are better off out of the EU. One or two trips to the continent should be all that it takes to see how much better other countries are in terms of infrastructure.

And, of course, successive Labour and Tory governments who don't invest in infrastructure.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Stations and infrastructure may be state owned but in Italy Italo are a private company running alongside Trenitalia with a slightly more expensive service than the state one.

 

[jacko74]

The example I've used demonstrates there's 100 billions of pounds available to the treasury whenever they want to do a vanity project. Don't let them con you into thinking money doesn't exist. They could easily afford solar panels and batteries for every household they just don't want to spend it on you and rather get rich by making their businesses they hold shares in richer.

Anyone who believes we live in a ''Democracy'' is either deluded, gullible or just a bit thick (probably all three)

What we live in is a combination of a Corporatocracy, Kleptocracy and Oligarchy.

The only meaningless sham of democratic process we have in this country is getting to vote for which ever self serving politician puppet of the banks, the corps and the establishment we want to tell us what we can and can't do.

 

[PragueBlue]

Privatisation?

Are the others state owned? Not sure to be honest.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Are the others state owned? Not sure to be honest.

ok sorry ...privatisation is brilliant and went really well.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Are the others state owned? Not sure to be honest.

Yes they are. The infrastructure, rail network, stations etc.
Also most of the operators are. Some private companies run alongside them.

 

[PragueBlue]

ok sorry ...privatisation is brilliant and went really well.

I was asking as I wasn't sure. I have no idea if public transport systems in other European countries are state or privately owned. I was making no comment (positive or negative) regarding privatisation.

Whatever the reason, they all seem superior to ours.

 

[mancityvstoke]

I was asking as I wasn't sure. I have no idea if public transport systems in other European countries are state or privately owned. I was making no comment (positive or negative) regarding privatisation.

Whatever the reason, they all seem superior to ours.

I don't know about European transport models, only here and ours is expensive and shit.

 

[PragueBlue]

Yes they are. The infrastructure, rail network, stations etc.
Also most of the operators are. Some private companies run alongside them.

Thanks for the answer. I wonder if ours had remained in the control of the state whether or not it would be on a par with other EU countries. I suspect that it would probably be a state owned shambles rather than a private shambles but who knows?