SebastianBlue
President, International Julian Alvarez Fan Club
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- 25 Jul 2009
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Sorry, Le Pen (National Front/Rally) hasn’t risen anywhere (regardless of the method of doing so)?I do see Reform as somewhat moderate in some areas but yes extreme in others. I'm not willing to say Reform is far-right as in absolutely everything about them is essentially Nazism because that isn't true. I do not agree with their immigration policies but I just don't see the problem with some of their other policies. That doesn't mean I'm a far-right monster.
I can understand why people have voted for them but it's not because they're Tommy Robinson supporting thugs. This is why I'm saying there is no rise of the far-right. I don't see a rise in Nazism or extremism from the people I talk to, many of which I know have voted for Reform.
Le Pen hasn't risen anywhere, she has united the right in France and that's about it, 50% of France did not vote for Le Pen. It's the reverse of the UK, the right is split and the popular vote will show that the country is essentially split right down the middle. It's not like the right didn't exist before, it has always existed and that led to sequential Tory majorities but now it has split in half.
Inversely to what you have said, if you sit on the left then of course you will perhaps think that my political views are on the right.
I am not sure there is any purpose to continuing the discussion if we do not occupy the same reality.