General Election - 4th July 2024

Who will you be voting for in the General Election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 266 56.8%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 12 2.6%
  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 40 8.5%
  • Reform

    Votes: 71 15.2%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 28 6.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 51 10.9%

  • Total voters
    468
Cameron won't be in charge of it this time. Besides, even though they could have done a lot more, the Lib Dems did water-down some of the most brutal policies of the Tories at that time.

You can see that in the contrast with when they lost their smidge of power. I'd like to hope they've learnt something from those negotiations that took place too, they really did get walked all over.
Agree. In retrospect they should have just supported a minority government and vetoed everything they didnt like. That's how it works in most countries with no majority government.
 
Being an MP is the best part-time job in Britain, and possibly the world.
Decent salary.
Huge expenses
Subsidised bars and restaurants.
Long holidays.
Amazing pension.

Much of the work is dealing with constituents' problems. This is largely an administrative task. You send a copy of their grievance to the relevant authority with a cover letter and then send the response back to the punter. Any Town Hall clerk with a year's experience could do that.

Committee work? Mainly mumbling agreement or disagreement. If there's something you really object to, you can say so.

Chamber work? Mainly voting in accordance with the Whips' instructions and shouting 'hear hear'. You can, of course, catch the Speaker's eye from time to time and make a speech or ask a question, but no one expects you to be Cicero. Certainly not in this day and age when most of them can barely frame a coherent paragraph.

When I was 40 I could have done all that without breaking sweat. Talk about a 'Bobby's job.'
 
Being an MP is the best part-time job in Britain, and possibly the world.
Decent salary.
Huge expenses
Subsidised bars and restaurants.
Long holidays.
Amazing pension.

Much of the work is dealing with constituents' problems. This is largely an administrative task. You send a copy of their grievance to the relevant authority with a cover letter and then send the response back to the punter. Any Town Hall clerk with a year's experience could do that.

Committee work? Mainly mumbling agreement or disagreement. If there's something you really object to, you can say so.

Chamber work? Mainly voting in accordance with the Whips' instructions and shouting 'hear hear'. You can, of course, catch the Speaker's eye from time to time and make a speech or ask a question, but no one expects you to be Cicero. Certainly not in this day and age when most of them can barely frame a coherent paragraph.

When I was 40 I could have done all that without breaking sweat. Talk about a 'Bobby's job.'
There's certainly some shit ones in it for the grift but it's not an easy job if you do it properly.

Listening to Rory Stewart describe how much work is involved if you actually give a shit was quite eye opening. 12-16 hour days, 7 days a week and much of that having shit hurled at you by angry constituents about things you're not actually responsible for, and more shit hurled at you in Westminster by the whip's office threatening you unless you vote for stuff you know nothing about and/or disagree with.

With that context, 91 grand isn't actually that much money...!
 
There's certainly some shit ones in it for the grift but it's not an easy job if you do it properly.

Listening to Rory Stewart describe how much work is involved if you actually give a shit was quite eye opening. 12-16 hour days, 7 days a week and much of that having shit hurled at you by angry constituents about things you're not actually responsible for, and more shit hurled at you in Westminster by the whip's office threatening you unless you vote for stuff you know nothing about and/or disagree with.

With that context, 91 grand isn't actually that much money...!
It also is a major reason why they tune out from listening to people.
 

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