General Election - 4th July 2024

[Bodicoteblue]

There's a kind of really abject antipathy about this Conservative campaign which I actually find quite shocking. The Tories have been divided on policy and approach before many many times, but the one thing you could really say about them is that when it came to election time they would present a strong united front. Often this was in stark contrast to the more chaotic looking left of the spectrum, and that strength in unity and resolve to win was really one of few things they had going for them.

But this election seems very different. MPs not bothering to get out on the doorstep, one has even gone to Greece for a few weeks. Factionalism rife, numerous people defecting and endorsing other parties. Party members undermining Sunak at basically every opportunity, Goldsmith is out again today still blowing smoke up Boris Johnson's arse in the most pathetic way imaginable. Absolutely no life or organisation in the campaign, they are still a long way from standing candidates in every seat. Sunak is actually just the cherry on a really shitty cake.

It genuinely looks like they want to lose, and a significant number of Tories want to see the party get destroyed beyond recognition. They are into active self-harm territory.

The tories stopped doing politics after 2019.
They went to the country with one policy and nothing else of any attainable substance.
They achieved that policy -up to a point- but it was not the version that was desired or voted for by those who chose to believe. It was however the ideal outcome for the offshore tax-dodgers and the wealthy fund managers who turned the economy into a massive casino, where they couldn’t lose because they were on the inside. The rest of the job was to redistribute public money into the pockets of friends , donors and fathers -in-law as swiftly as possible before the inevitable reckoning.
Followed by the lunacy of truss and her rabid insanity and what have we got left?
That‘s right - wee rishi standing in the political downpour his party have left him in, burbling on about bizarre notions of national service and looking wetter by the day.
A former political party and highly efficient vote winners reduced to this, by their own stupidity, avarice, and arrogance.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

There's a kind of really abject antipathy about this Conservative campaign which I actually find quite shocking. The Tories have been divided on policy and approach before many many times, but the one thing you could really say about them is that when it came to election time they would present a strong united front. Often this was in stark contrast to the more chaotic looking left of the spectrum, and that strength in unity and resolve to win was really one of few things they had going for them.

But this election seems very different. MPs not bothering to get out on the doorstep, one has even gone to Greece for a few weeks. Factionalism rife, numerous people defecting and endorsing other parties. Party members undermining Sunak at basically every opportunity, Goldsmith is out again today still blowing smoke up Boris Johnson's arse in the most pathetic way imaginable. Absolutely no life or organisation in the campaign, they are still a long way from standing candidates in every seat. Sunak is actually just the cherry on a really shitty cake.

It genuinely looks like they want to lose, and a significant number of Tories want to see the party get destroyed beyond recognition. They are into active self-harm territory.

The Conservative MP in Bury hasn’t received *a single* donation and the local party only have £2k in the bank.

Times radio were talking about it earlier.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

The tories stopped doing politics after 2019.
They went to the country with one policy and nothing else of any attainable substance.
They achieved that policy -up to a point- but it was not the version that was desired or voted for by those who chose to believe. It was however the ideal outcome for the offshore tax-dodgers and the wealthy fund managers who turned the economy into a massive casino, where they couldn’t lose because they were on the inside. The rest of the job was to redistribute public money into the pockets of friends , donors and fathers -in-law as swiftly as possible before the inevitable reckoning.
Followed by the lunacy of truss and her rabid insanity and what have we got left?
That‘s right - wee rishi standing in the political downpour his party have left him in, burbling on about bizarre notions of national service and looking wetter by the day.
A former political party and highly efficient vote winners reduced to this, by their own stupidity, avarice, and arrogance.

You've almost made me feel sorry for him there...

Not quite though.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

The Conservative MP in Bury hasn’t received *a single* donation and the local party only have £2k in the bank.

Times radio were talking about it earlier.

I saw that earlier. Fact of the matter is, a donation right now is throwing money down the drain for a lost cause.

Pair that with the other thing I saw this week, Lib Dems are distributing 2 million leaflets across the home counties. Leaflets alone might not sound that important but:
1. They nearly always pair leaflets with boots on the ground canvassing which does have an impact.
2. It shows you the Lib Dems campaign in Tory heartlands is likely to be their focus, and they're going to put a lot of their own money into it.

Frankly, they're being attacked on all fronts and they have no funding, or in some cases no candidates to fight back. Absolutely apocalyptic situation for them. The only thing that can save them is muscle memory from the electorate.

That's if the retirees aren't all on holiday in July and decide to give this one a miss. With a lot of students home from university at that time, that also means fewer votes piling up in town/city centres where Tories are much less competitive.

Like I said, it's as if they're trying to lose.

 

[Don Karleone]

Andy Street endorsed Liz Truss. The search for a "good Tory" continues.

 

[Postman Pep]

Andy Street endorsed Liz Truss. The search for a "good Tory" continues.

Rory is the undisputed.... it's a futile search ;-)

 

[bluethrunthru]

I felt sorry for him in the local elections.

He did his best in Birmingham and comes across really well. He’s exactly the sort of well-intentioned moderate centrist conservative that deserves a chance.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Labour tapped him up.

he is exactly the kind of Tory the Tory Party entryist factionalists don't like or want and their remorse at his defeat was based solely on the fact it added to their embarrassment at the actual level of defeat.

I'd go as far to say he is principled enough to reject a Labour approach because he sees himself as a "proper" Tory and he knows they are soon going to need people like him to crew the lifeboats if Conservatism is to have a long term future

 

[Don Karleone]

Rory is the undisputed.... it's a futile search ;-)

I can't lie, I thought the same at one point. Thankfully I got over it.

 

[Don Karleone]

Yay

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Yay

Isn’t that a good thing, or are we looking for the Tories to stay in power?