General Election - 4th July 2024

[bluethrunthru]

 

[BobKowalski]

Quite right too.

Poor quality degrees and poor outcomes for the students involved.

The only winners are the Universities involved, effectively funded by the taxpayer as more and more student loans default.

It’s a racket and it should have been sorted out years ago.

It’s none of the Govt’s business. Let the market decide and keep your Commie nose out of education.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It’s none of the Govt’s business. Let the market decide and keep your Commie nose out of education.

They’ve got to do something to help fund the financial gap in university funding by reducing the number of foreign students paying far more than the average U.K. student.

This isn’t it though. It’s a nonsense.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

It’s going to get a whole lot dirtier from them until the 4th July. If I were other parties I would like to see billboards highlighting tractor porn, being blackmailed on Tinder, using campaign funds to pay off kidnappers, generally being a bit rapey and grabby grabby. That’s even before we actually get into the complete mess they’ve made of the country since 2010.

This isn't America and 99% of people see this kind of shit for what it is, ridiculous and pathetic, and just makes them look like even more of a laughing stock.

The televised debates are going to be a bloodbath just like every PMQs for the last two years have been.

And I'm exactly the kind of centrist voter the Tories should be targeting, really. Loved Blair, hated Corbyn, quite like Starmer. Thought Cameron had a point with needing to get the debt down but the way he and Osborne implemented it was very poor, and everything since has been a complete clown show.

I actually quite liked Sunak during the pandemic but fuck me he's blown it since.

 

[Brewster's millions]

It’s none of the Govt’s business. Let the market decide and keep your Commie nose out of education.

That’s an interesting approach.

Remove student loans and let the market decide regarding courses offered and the number of students attending.

The funding the government effectively provides via student loans could instead be offered as grants to students from poorer backgrounds, based on academic ability and the subjects they want to study, such that the brightest students can go to university without accumulating huge debts.

Sounds like a winner to me.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Quite right too.

Poor quality degrees and poor outcomes for the students involved.

The only winners are the Universities involved, effectively funded by the taxpayer as more and more student loans default.

It’s a racket and it should have been sorted out years ago.

You’re exactly right. Pity the Tories have done fuck all about it, even though they said they’d deal with it a year ago.

Tories, rehashing old pledges that they failed to deliver on, once again.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I might have a glance at the BBC website to check on which is the spiffiest of spiffing wheezes today. So far it's a toss up between legalised volunteering for the armed forces or not spending a penny of the taxpayers loot!

 

[BobKowalski]

That’s an interesting approach.

Remove student loans and let the market decide regarding courses offered and the number of students attending.

The funding the government effectively provides via student loans could instead be offered as grants to students from poorer backgrounds, based on academic ability and the subjects they want to study, such that the brightest students can go to university without accumulating huge debts.

Sounds like a winner to me.

The Govt should not be in the business of dictating what should be studied at University.

I do, however, applaud your journey towards the European model of University funding. You will find being a European Social Democrat much more rewarding than bag carrying for every absurd notion the Tories dream up on a daily basis. I have no idea what the Tory Election strategists are smoking, but it’s some seriously potent shit. Just say ‘no’ and for God’s sake don’t inhale.

 

[BobKowalski]

On a more serious note, these figures are wild. It’s not just the Labour/Con figures but the Greens.

’This morning's YouGov for people under 50 only:

Labour 59%
Greens 12%
Cons 8%
Reform 8%
LD 6%
That's the worst result amongst this age group I've see yet. Equal third with Reform.’ @SamFreedman

 

[threespires]

You'd think they would steer away from the subject of apprenticeships given how badly they failed with their 2015 reform programme and targets. This is the issue with the recent/current government for me, even if they did stumble across a sensible policy you just know that from bean to cup they'd fuck up the implementation. Their track record is one of unremitting incompetence. At least they used to be good at campaigning albeit at the expense of having any governmental skills whatsoever; but now they appear to be shit at absolutely everything. Actually that's not strictly true there's still some decent grifting going on. Given they've managed to cling onto that 'skill', you could be forgiven for thinking they were never really there for the betterment of the country in the first place.