General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Chippy_boy]

Classic illustration of "the triumph of hope over experience"

Good god. Show me the last successful hard left Labour party, for fucks sake. And you have the temerity to criticise like that????

Probably the most ludicrously ironic post on the entire thread.

 

[Vic]

There are truly none so blind as cannot see, and someone has gouged your fucking eyes out pal.

You really don't like truth, do you? Or being nice.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Oh I don't know.

Why will your life be better if we leave the EU? Would you rather leave the EU or continue to have free medical treatment (as you get older)?

Lives probably won’t be better for at least another 50 years(source:Mogg) but Leave ‘won’ and apparently that’s what people still want

I thought Johnson missing every deadline, being unable to answer questions, lack of preparation and avoiding interviews, his party doctoring videos, giving misleading nursing numbers unnecessarily, the Party pretending to be an online fact-checking service etc. would have counted for something but it doesn’t. Cleary.

So we will go through with it, tangibly lives won’t improve, we’ll still spend years consumed by it then we’ll look for someone else to blame

 

[stonerblue]

You really don't like truth, do you? Or being nice.

He's turned very nasty recently. Much nicer in the brexit threads though.

 

[Vic]

Good god. Show me the last successful hard left Labour party, for fucks sake. And you have the temerity to criticise like that????

Probably the most ludicrously ironic post on the entire thread.

I suppose that nationalising utilities, transport, health service, coal and steel industries, is a bit hard left, so that would be the 1945 Labour government. I won't bother with the trivial stuff like occupational pensions for workers in those industries, health and safety at work acts, and a right to a 20-minute break for shopworkers every 6 hours etc etc. So successful that no Conservative government dared dismantle those "successes" till Thatcher.

 

[Chippy_boy]

You really don't like truth, do you? Or being nice.

My apologies. A bit grumpy this morning to be fair Sorry.

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

Completely agree with this, drives me nuts on both sides. Glass houses and all that, there’s no moral high ground to be had there whatsoever, “we’re slightly less racist than you” is still nothing to be proud of.

Just on the conservatives, they were asked for clarification on their processes by the EHRC earlier this year too and since then they’ve had a few cases where they’ve allowed people back in (or not suspended them in the first place). They’ve been asked again recently so we could have a situation where both of our main parties are under investigation by the EHRC, which is a fucking appalling state of affairs.

You’re right it’s on Johnson now, let’s hope his investigation isn’t as pointless as Chakrabatis...

Pointless? Her diligence and forensic examination earned her an almost instant peerage and a place on Corbyn's front bench.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

No it's not. That's a ridiculously dumb thing to say. Being gay isn't a religion. Being Muslim is a choice, being gay isn't.

If I don't believe in a magic imaginary sky fairy and find the whole concept of what is necessary to subjugate oneself in worship of said sky fairy to be ludicrous, in what sense would I have any respect for any segment of the religion, especially one that promotes hatred of others in a book that is meant to be regarded as "perfect", "incorruptible" and "the absolute final word of the one true God"?

Hating MUSLIMS is the definition of Islamophobia, just as homophobia is the hatred of homosexuals. Hating the religion is not. The more conservative Muslims are trying to change the definition for it to mean hatred of the religion, but nowhere in the world (except maybe Saudi Arabia) is it considered taboo or immoral to voice opposition to a religion. That;'s why we're allowed to criticise Christianity and not be observed as "Christianophobes".

I don't think there are many non muslims that admire Islam, its tenets are, pretty obnoxious, as indeed, at one stage, was
Christianity. The difference is that around 500 years ago Christianity had a reformation that abandoned these vile strictures,
Islam has rigidly held to them, and that inspires the fanatical behaviour that is far and away the biggest cause of terrorism on the planet.
For another thread though.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Pretty poor show from all sides in the election so far. With politics and especially politicians being thought so lowly of by the public, I can't see much that has changed that opinion the past few weeks. If only there was a none of the above box on the ballot paper?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

And many of us will be like this

''Some like it hot,''
One of my favourite films, and Marilyn Monroe was sensational...