General Election - December 12th, 2019

[BobKowalski]

I suspect it will be regarded so, simply because the media attention will shift elsewhere. The media thrives on binary possibilities, so It’ll be hard to generate interest in the minutia of technocratic negotiations.

Yes. That’s my feeling too. On all the talk of Johnson pivoting to soft Brexit to get a deal done this piece by Ivan Rogers argues it’s unlikely and as much to do with how the EU see the sequencing of negotiations. They see the timeframe as a chance to do a quick and dirty deal on tariffs and fish with the rest to be sorted out later. And by rest they mean ‘services’ etc which are key for the UK but not so much for the EU. Sequencing was the battle we lost in the WA talks and the EU will seek to replicate that success.

Level playing field will be the other main requirement which they have partially got already in the WA on state aid with respect to NI and any U.K. wide measures that includes NI.

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/...brexit-general-election-conservative-majority

 

[BobKowalski]

There's quite a few Tory also rans now representing constituencies full of the great unwashed, that used to be Labour's job. It'll be mildly interesting to see how Tim "nice but dim" performs having to represent the hoi polloi.

I doubt if they could find their constituencies on a map let alone show up.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

What happened yesterday was that Brexit split the traditional political alliances and attachments. It's overridden where people are on the political spectrum.

Yes because the electorate are smart enough to put democracy above partisanship and used the opportunity to tell those that seek to represent that they must do so honestly.

 

[robbieh]

They would have won the 2017 election so wouldn’t have had to worry about yesterday

The Ref was in 2016. You suggesting that all these Remainers would have stood on a Leave ticket in the GE a year later?

 

[oldius]

Can't believe Burnley is now Conservative....

I can. I worked there for five years and the BNP made its head office there. The Conservatives have driven a bus through forgotten towns, flying an anti-immigration banner, and leaving those towns to forget the devastation that the Conservatives have caused them for decades. Their forefathers who manned the looms will be turning in their graves.

 

[The perfect fumble]

The new Tory MP for Penistone has a business that charges foodbanks £360 a year to register so that people can donate to them via the app.

That shouldn't surprise me, but somehow, in a sadly depressing way, it does.

 

[BobKowalski]

E27 have been talkative this morning. Macron now.

"If Boris Johnson wants a very ambitious trade deal, there has to be very ambitious regulatory convergence. Be me guest.”

 

[Metal Biker]

Nothing to see here.......

Correct. There is nothing to see here other than an attempt of guilt by association, of which the Conservatives had nothing to do with or any connection to.

You've just seen your side of the political debate destroyed in an election and you're STILL using the same tactics.

Maybe it'll sink in down the line, maybe it won't, but when are you going to learn the toxic narrative you're peddling doesn't convince people except those in your own little bubble?

 

[Blue Hefner]

The Ref was in 2016. You suggesting that all these Remainers would have stood on a Leave ticket in the GE a year later?

I’m suggesting that even though May was all for Brexit only got through with the help of the DUP. If a Labour PM with an inch of charisma and leadership skills would have been at the wheel they may have got over the line. During the last campaign Brexit wasn’t front and centre, people realised there was more such as counter terrorism and the appalling housing conditions of places like Grenfall

 

[The perfect fumble]

I doubt if they could find their constituencies on a map let alone show up.

Agreed.

Quite a few of Lord Snooty's pals now have constituencies in Mordor, they're going to have to rub shoulders with Orcs.

"Whatcha going to do about this dog shit?"