I'm saying that those who keep on repeating that Labour lost solely because the voting public have been conned by the media are talking bollocks.
Which they quite clearly are.
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General Election - December 12th, 2019
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I'm saying that those who keep on repeating that Labour lost solely because the voting public have been conned by the media are talking bollocks.
Which they quite clearly are.
Your right, I'm English a taxpayer and fed up with the Scottish and the Barnet formula thus propping them up. I will say it again be careful what you wish for !
In that case, you have sadly misunderstood the Barnett formula, and who contributes what, and what is raised in Scotland. As well as the concept of the (or a) union.
blueparrot
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I suggest the Labour membership looks at themselves, stop being self indulgent and take some resposibility for the last 10 years and probably the next 10 of Tory governments. Untill they look outwards instead of the own idiological fantasy it will carry on.oh dear len, the usual suspects never lost the election, labour did.
labour need to make themselves electable and if they don’t people won’t vote for them. It’s really as simple as that.
blaming the usual suspects won’t change the result. I suggest you look to momentum and Corbyn for that.
Magicpole
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Agreed 100%... Give us English a vote in INDY2 then we can fuck you all off where you lot belong, Barnet formula a joke, Scotland with a population on par with Yorkshire setting demands ? I hope you lot get your wish and I will happily eat my popcorn as it all goes wrong !!
Get your order in quick, but we won't regret a fucking thing. At least if we fuck up it will be us who do it. Not a shower of Toffy nosed Tory cunts. It will be our bastards, and I would take that anyday. And if you think we would crumble, you know fuck all about the Scots. We have resources, brains and bottle. Anyway, enjoy your popcorn.
And do you believe that if England were given a referendum to leave the union (UK), they would vote yes?
I would not be surprised in the slightest.
I don't actively believe it, but don't necessarily believe otherwise either.
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
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The attacks from the media also had an effect,why would you even say it didn't,shocking personal attacks day after day for years,if the media doesn't sway people then they wouldn't bother doing it
We complain about media bias and attacks on city,it works
Unlike the attacks on PL teams, mainly limited to one we all know, I thought the political media attempted hatchet jobs on everyone. The number of times I heard via the media that Boris was an inveterate liar and how Jezzer was another red under the bed, turned the entire campaign into the usual pantomime that British politics has become.
Bovril
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Lets agree to disagree, hope you get what you all wish for.In that case, you have sadly misunderstood the Barnett formula, and who contributes what, and what is raised in Scotland. As well as the concept of the (or a) union.
BosnianBlue
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It’s a shocking system and anyone who voted for the big 2(well big 1 now) are complicit in it. Maybe labour should look towards political reform once dumb and dumber have fucked off.
Labour is still good with this system so I doubt it. Only if they fail to third, they might want th change as third is the one that gets fucked most.
And we wonder why Scotland hate us so muchAgreed 100%... Give us English a vote in INDY2 then we can fuck you all off where you lot belong, Barnet formula a joke, Scotland with a population on par with Yorkshire setting demands ? I hope you lot get your wish and I will happily eat my popcorn as it all goes wrong !!
Get your order in quick, but we won't regret a fucking thing. At least if we fuck up it will be us who do it. Not a shower of Toffy nosed Tory cunts. It will be our bastards, and I would take that anyday. And if you think we would crumble, you know fuck all about the Scots. We have resources, brains and bottle. Anyway, enjoy your popcorn.
That's some chip you've got on your shoulder.