General Election - December 12th, 2019

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I think there will be a massive shock and we will see an almost unimaginable very large Tory majority. It is exactly what May was predicted to achieve a couple of years ago but she messed up the campaign.

Labour are there for the taking because they have appealed to their base and 'movement' instead of the wider public. They will risk 52% of their vote with their Brexit ideas but they are being outgunned on credibility by the Tories and Lib Dems who just care more about it.

I just don't know how they think they can win by being irrelevant in the conversation on the most important issue the country has faced for decades.

I think the dynamic has changed too much since 2017 to use that election as a meaningful benchmark.

 

[PragueBlue]

I struggle to think how people can be sure without seeing a manifesto and even more so the fact that 6 people have ticked the Brexit Party at the top of this page where they only know what one policy is.

How in the hell can you decide to vote for a party that you only know one policy for?

I would suggest the answer to that is probably Brexit.

Some might change their minds when they see the manifestos but I bet the vast majority of the population never actually read them anyway.

 

[PragueBlue]

I think the dynamic has changed too much since 2017 to use that election as a meaningful benchmark.

I agree. I suspect we'll end up with neither side having an overall majority and we'll have to see who can cobble a coalition together.

 

[mayo31]

Labour have no chance of winning and I am a labour voter

The media has already started its campaign against JC.

Last night the news at 10pm (itv) interviewed 3 people in some run down place in the north. All 3 were asked why they will not vote labour anymore after years of doing so

None had any reasons other than one said JC is gobby?

One was a taxi driver who said the place is run down and all the industries have gone. Seems to blame labour, why, who knows but was never asked.

All 3 were white or grey looking, it looked cold where they live.

All voted for Brexit.

This is what will beat labour, the media, the perception of JC and the fact many in those areas have forgotten it was Maggie who destroyed their towns. But Blair and co invited the immigrants in, this is their view now.

 

[jay_mcfc]

I think there will be a massive shock and we will see an almost unimaginable very large Tory majority. It is exactly what May was predicted to achieve a couple of years ago but she messed up the campaign.

Labour are there for the taking because they have appealed to their base and 'movement' instead of the wider public. They will risk 52% of their vote with their Brexit ideas but they are being outgunned on credibility by the Tories and Lib Dems who just care more about it.

I just don't know how they think they can win by being irrelevant in the conversation on the most important issue the country has faced for decades.

Deluded. You do know that over 16 million people voted remain and there’s only one party offering a second ref?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

 

[Vic]

Empathy’s not your strong point, Vic.

Empathy with fascists? No, not really.

 

[PragueBlue]

Deluded. You do know that over 16 million people voted remain and there’s only one party offering a second ref?

There are others offering an outright remain though and that will appeal to some remainers more than a 2nd ref.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I struggle to think how people can be sure without seeing a manifesto and even more so the fact that 6 people have ticked the Brexit Party at the top of this page where they only know what one policy is.

How in the hell can you decide to vote for a party that you only know one policy for?

there are plenty of people who know who they are voting for already and won’t even pick up a manifesto and won’t need to.

you know the type, my dad voted labour all his life , so have I . I Will always vote labour.

insert tory to above sentence as appropriate.

I reckon over half the electorate are already in that place, nothing will change their mind.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Empathy with fascists? No, not really.

You think people who will vote Brexit party are fascists? Thank you for suitably demonstrating my point.