No not really. The government doesn't fall unless (a) there's a confidence motion and (b) they lose it.But if he removes the whip from anyone who doesn’t vote with him tonight, he’s bolloxed.
Hard liners more irate??? Have you read this forum or been on Twitter?
Remainers are in a complete meltdown. Have been for the last two years
I actually respect Johnson for at least having the bollocks to try to get this finished. I think people are just completely fucked off with it all now. I know I am.
Which "facts" there can't be any facts until we've left the European union.I’d say more remainers use facts for there basis of argument - leavers play on pure emotion
Utter made up, fact free claptrap ...!I’d say more remainers use facts for there basis of argument - leavers play on pure emotion
Chipster, as a staunch pro EU remain Tory if you were an MP you would presumably be voting (as a man of principle) against the Government tonight.No not really. The government doesn't fall unless (a) there's a confidence motion and (b) they lose it.
Which side of the house an individual is sitting on is immaterial, it's how they vote in a confidence motion that matters. MPs have been ignoring their whips to unprecedented degree anyway.
They did indeed, but it wasn't a huge margin.Bracknell voted Leave, with more than 76 per cent of people turning out to vote.
He will lose his seat in a GE.
I’m surprised any of us are still here. World War III and all that. (And it’s “their” not “there”. Facts hey).I’d say more remainers use facts for there basis of argument - leavers play on pure emotion
Utter made up, fact free claptrap ...!
Most of the remainer crap spouted is 100% baseless conjecture...
And still you bang on about Mcdonnell.It's not a binary.
Politics is at a low ebb, not least because of the turgid personalities which seem to be endemic. And the country is clearly suffering from impaired public services after a long period of constrained public spending. (No need to get into any debate about whether this was necessary or not. I happen to believe it was necessary, but that is not the point, it's happened.)
But if the economy continues to grow and as we continue to get debt under control, there is more room for public spending and the plight of the less-well-off will improve, and attitudes will change.
Is "the system" structurally broken? No. Would replacing it with some neo-communist ideal a la McDonnell, improve things? Categorically not. There might be some very short term uplift for the poorest whilst he went on his tax and spend spree, but it would be unsustainable and would utlimately make EVERYONE worse off, with the poor feeling it the most. More people unemployed and even worse public services. How anyone can look at nations like Russia and think "yes please, I want some of that" is quite beyond me.